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Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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I found out that on Reddit people go there and ask things like this (someone asked recently): "My girlfriend and I are looking for something to do. Are there any protests going on today we can go to?" Can you imagine people actually searching things out like that? These "people voicing concerns" are like that. Someone has to find something to be enraged about for the sake of finding something to do.

Can you imagine people actually believing a post on Reddit, and then extrapolating that to everybody who is going to a protest?

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Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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> The only way Batman remains a "good guy" in the eyes of the audience is by destroying the entire thing once he's done. A key part of that is when he tells Alfred that he did not even trust himself with that level of surveillance and coded it to only grant access to Alfred. Further, Alfred agrees to aid Batman by accessing the data but simultaneously tenders his resignation. I doubt Amazon has anyone like Alfred in…

These kinds of resignations are interesting. The character is such a good protagonist, he resigns rather than do Bad Thing. But that pretty much guarantees the boss will hire someone more pliable. Why not instead swallow the pride and do Bad Thing but with some level of moderation? That would surely be a better outcome overall. The argument is that it would destroy the character's honor or whatever. But that is also…

> Why not instead swallow the pride and do Bad Thing but with some level of moderation? That would surely be a better outcome overall.

This is a common debate, especially given current events in US politics. The theory goes that you can do more to effect change by staying inside the system than by resigning.

For powerful positions, it doesn’t really work if there is significant disagreement about what’s being done. If you do the requested actions that you disagree with, you become part of the problem and lose credibility in the process. You also lose some of your ability to blow the whistle because you have some culpability in what happened.

If you resist or try to interfere, it becomes noticeable very rapidly. Sooner than a lot of people in this position expect, from what I gather. Then you find yourself fired for performance problems or insubordination, which makes any future whistle blowing look like cheap attempts at retaliation for being fired. If you did carry out some of the orders then you’ve also lost some standing to blame others.

So resigning, publicly, is the only surefire way to retain your credibility and send a message without becoming involved with the thing you’re trying to prevent.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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They should have used base64 encryption.

There are performance concerns with base64. Hardware-assisted null-key encryption offers security that's a non-strict superset of base64 encryption and with superior performance.

null-key encryption is write-once, read-never, so you don't have to cache it.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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that advert is just so horribly manipulative it's borderline evil how can normal people go to work and produce this output? (I suppose everyone that is prepared to work at Amazon corporate is... a certain type of person)

Because if you don't do what you are told at work, you may be forced to uproot your family, spouse, kids, and leave the country. You may be forced to abandon your pets and never see them again, forced to send your kids to suddenly school in a different, foreign-to-them language. You may be forced to pay tens of thousands in moving expenses. You may be forced to pay mortgages for a house you are not allowed to live in…

as a species, we are fucked if there's many people that fit your description

your kids have to live on this earth too, and they'll suffer the consequences of cowardly people like that

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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The Dark Knight was released in 2008. In that movie, Batman hijacks citizens' cellphones to track down the Joker, and it's presented as a major moral and ethical dilemma as part of the movie's overall themes. The only way Batman remains a "good guy" in the eyes of the audience is by destroying the entire thing once he's done. Crazy to think that less than two decades later, an even more powerful surveillance technolo…

It's hard to not become disillusioned with our industry when most of it is just the manifesting of that Torment Nexus tweet. It's like no one in the tech world actually understands any piece of fiction that they have ever consumed.

Video games are jammed with the follies of man. Elden Ring: Nightreign is a recent anthology of moral lessons.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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The evidence is shown on screen. We see the asteroid fired at Earth. We see Buenos Aires destroyed. We see the bugs killing the humans. If you call this unreliable narration it becomes impossible to discuss any fiction at all, because once you reject basic narrative conventions you can make up any nonsense you like and nobody can argue against it. Calling the characters "fascists" because they use fascist aesthetics…

>We see the asteroid fired at Earth. No, we don't. The bugs have no technology. How could they send an asteroid from light-years away with enough speed and accuracy to hit Earth on any reasonable timeframe? It's not even a good lie. It's a story that strains credulity the second you actually think about its logistics. The only reason you believe it is that characters in the movie say it. >We see Buenos Aires destroye…

>The bugs have no technology.

The bugs are shown firing projectiles to orbit. This is a setting with FTL travel; it's clearly not hard sci-fi. By the standard narrative conventions of soft sci-fi action movies, the bugs are capable of firing asteroids at Earth.

>The true cause of the destruction is irrelevant

It's critically important to the ethical justification for military response. According to the information actually presented in the movie, the destruction was deliberate murder of millions of civilians. Any other interpretation is fan-fiction.

>no rational person would blame the bees for stinging you.

They'd blame them for killing everybody they know. And that initial provocation was not the fault of the United Citizen Federation.

>Any discussion of the actual society they live in paints a clear picture of fascism.

It has objectively more freedom in times of war than any real life society.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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There would be less backlash to the Ring ad if the ad was honest about how people actually use it. Show us porch pirates, burglars and stupid neighbor who backs into your car being caught on camera. But instead, they have to come up with something "wholesome" like finding your lost doggo. The wholesomeness is so forced and cringe that it makes you think they have something to hide. It almost feels like the people who…

> Show us porch pirates, burglars and stupid neighbor who backs into your car being caught on camera.

This is what their ads have been showing for the last many years.

The dog thing is the new feature they're hawking.

Re: Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance

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The Dark Knight was released in 2008. In that movie, Batman hijacks citizens' cellphones to track down the Joker, and it's presented as a major moral and ethical dilemma as part of the movie's overall themes. The only way Batman remains a "good guy" in the eyes of the audience is by destroying the entire thing once he's done. Crazy to think that less than two decades later, an even more powerful surveillance technolo…

Surely it's problematic that Batman doesn't have consent to hijack phones? Whereas participating in Ring is voluntary?

Anyway, movies aren't, like, the arbiters of truth. Sometimes they just have simplistic themes.

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