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Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by JCattheATM »

HighGoldstein wrote: post #234
JCattheATM wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Executing people guilty of serious crimes is good and just. Wrong. It's barbaric and primitive. > execution is no more or less "barbaric" than the alternatives Yes, it is. People make mistakes. People have infinite possibility to grow, change and contribute to society. Snuffing everything someone is out because of an arbitrary society rule that ultimately does less harm than murder is indefensible. > "mercy to the…

> Wrong. It's barbaric and primitive. Source? > Yes, it is. People make mistakes. People have infinite possibility to grow, change and contribute to society. Snuffing everything someone is out because of an arbitrary society rule that ultimately does less harm than murder is indefensible. Putting aside statistics on actual reform instead of fantastical infinite possibility, as I understand this policy mostly serves t…

> Source?

Do you know what an opinion is?

> as I understand this policy mostly serves to deter foreigners from attempting the potentially very lucrative business of smuggling drugs into Singapore.

So what? That's not a justification.

> Why should they bear this burden for people who have no ties to Singapore and will never contribute anything to it?

Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than most countries. It's not like the US where it's relatively easy to sneak in. 'They might come back' is a poor justification for murder.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by JCattheATM »

shell0x wrote: post #237
JCattheATM wrote: post #211

It was never 'cool'. It's a barbaric totalitarian state that hides it well. It's one of the few countries I truly don't want to ever support by spending money as a tourist there.

It’s still a significantly better place to live than America or Europe though. > It's a barbaric totalitarian state that hides it well. The same can be said about the Us which stirs up wars in other countries, kidnaps other countries presidents and has ICE arresting kids. I’d pick Singapore over the US any day of the week.

> It’s still a significantly better place to live than America or Europe though.

They keep a small, 'racially pure' population, ban any negative press, kill any undesirables....sure it is.

> The same can be said about the Us which stirs up wars in other countries, kidnaps other countries presidents and has ICE arresting kids.

The US under Trump has changed a lot, this is true, but in most states it's not putting people to death for minor reasons and actually allows enough freedom to make love worth living. You'd have to be an NPC to be happy living in Singapore IMO.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by HighGoldstein »

JCattheATM wrote: post #241
HighGoldstein wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wrong. It's barbaric and primitive. Source? > Yes, it is. People make mistakes. People have infinite possibility to grow, change and contribute to society. Snuffing everything someone is out because of an arbitrary society rule that ultimately does less harm than murder is indefensible. Putting aside statistics on actual reform instead of fantastical infinite possibility, as I understand this policy mostly serves t…

> Source? Do you know what an opinion is? > as I understand this policy mostly serves to deter foreigners from attempting the potentially very lucrative business of smuggling drugs into Singapore. So what? That's not a justification. > Why should they bear this burden for people who have no ties to Singapore and will never contribute anything to it? Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than mos…

>Do you know what an opinion is?

Cool, what makes _your_ opinion better than mine, or that of the Singaporeans?

>Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than most countries. It's not like the US where it's relatively easy to sneak in.

Okay, why should they? Drug traffickers are perfectly capable of not attempting to smuggle drugs into Singapore.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by HighGoldstein »

JCattheATM wrote: post #242
HighGoldstein wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define unethical.

Hit up Merriam-Webster at your own leisure.

": not conforming to a high moral standard : morally wrong : not ethical"

I see nothing here that applies to executing drug traffickers.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by JCattheATM »

HighGoldstein wrote: post #247
JCattheATM wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Source? Do you know what an opinion is? > as I understand this policy mostly serves to deter foreigners from attempting the potentially very lucrative business of smuggling drugs into Singapore. So what? That's not a justification. > Why should they bear this burden for people who have no ties to Singapore and will never contribute anything to it? Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than mos…

>Do you know what an opinion is? Cool, what makes _your_ opinion better than mine, or that of the Singaporeans? >Singapore is perfectly able to control their borders better than most countries. It's not like the US where it's relatively easy to sneak in. Okay, why should they? Drug traffickers are perfectly capable of not attempting to smuggle drugs into Singapore.

> what makes _your_ opinion better than mine, or that of the Singaporeans?

Because I believe it can be supported and be shown to be objectively correct. Not that I'm willing to put in the effort when it already took this much for you to realize I was stating an opinion though.

> Okay, why should they? Drug traffickers are perfectly capable of not attempting to smuggle drugs into Singapore.

If you think casual murder is fine because it's convenient, I don't think there's much for us to discuss anyway. We clearly have drastically different values. I'll just take solace in the fact that Singapore likely won't survive another 100 years.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by JCattheATM »

HighGoldstein wrote: post #248
JCattheATM wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hit up Merriam-Webster at your own leisure.

": not conforming to a high moral standard : morally wrong : not ethical" I see nothing here that applies to executing drug traffickers.

Because you don't want to, I guess. I'm not particularly interested in discussing this with you because I don't get the feeling from your responses so far that there is a possibility of productive high-level discussion. Take care.
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