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The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by msh »

whatever1 wrote: post #172
a-french-anon wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> end of story. Is it? Here's another version I like even more that unsettles democracy dogmatics: power attracts the corrupt.

It is absolutely correct, hence why limited terms are a prerequisite for functioning democracies. An ill intentioned participant in power will not have unlimited time to do that much damage. A good intentioned participant will not have too much time to become corrupted. The downside is that a good intentioned ruler, may not have enough time to accomplish their good vision. But my thesis is that is a reasonable price…

But will the elected representatives have the time needed to get good at their jobs? If not they might just be pushed around by bad actors.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Der_Einzige »

noosphr wrote: post #200
a-french-anon wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> end of story. Is it? Here's another version I like even more that unsettles democracy dogmatics: power attracts the corrupt.

Sortition is the only system that ensures high quality universal education. If anyone can become president for a year then everyone needs to be able to be president for a year.

This but unironically.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Aerbil313 »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #204
KoftaBob wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Him being in jail awaiting trial, which risked him exposing the details of the operation if he felt it could help him get a lighter sentence. If the choice for Mossad was either risk Epstein exposing that Israel was essentially running a state-sponsored underage sex trafficking ring, or kill him before he can do that, you know what they'd choose.

Right, so pretty much every rich person was implicated by and at risk because of Epstein, including the sitting U.S. President at the time, but it was actually Mossad…

How do you run a crime organization that big and that out in the open (communicating openly via email, which not even the biggest drug cartels dare to do) without getting taken down by the various intelligence agencies of the world, even avoiding the U.S. federal law enforcement for the longest time?

There is one answer: Epstein was protected by state forces, not that of U.S. but of its closest "ally" (more like master at this point).

Not that they need it that much today, anyway. AIPAC sponsors almost all of U.S. congress, check out how much your congressmen and women received from AIPAC here: https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Der_Einzige »

actionfromafar wrote: post #167
a-french-anon wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> end of story. Is it? Here's another version I like even more that unsettles democracy dogmatics: power attracts the corrupt.

Shouldn't it unsettle King dogmatics just as much?

In a world where the best ran country on earth is a "enlighten despotism" AKA Singapore, Nope.

They think we just need more LKYs, or really, AI systems controlling everything. A benevolent dictatorial AI running society is exactly what all the futurists think is coming. Go read Orions Arm.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Aerbil313 »

accidentallfact wrote: post #211
moralestapia wrote: post #5

Excerpt from one of the related emails (written by JE): "great proposal„ however, it needs to be more around deception alice -bob. communication. virus hacking, battle between defense and infiltration.. computation is already looked at in various fields. camoflauge , mimickry, signal processing, and its non random nature, misinformation. ( the anti- truth - but right answer for the moment ).. computation does not inv…

It's called "a stupid man with money". It's really quite simple: * He has money * People want a share of his money * He has enough people to tell him stuff to make his bullshit seem to have some connection with reality * Anybody who argues with his stupid bullshit is no longer welcome and gets no chance to get a share of his money

Ugh. I worked for a guy like this, he was a full-on cybersecurity paranoiac. You need to be a special type of person with near-infinite patience of stupidity just to be able to work under them.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by pooper »

whatever1 wrote: post #150

Power corrupts, end of story. Democracy (limited terms), taxation and anti-monopoly regulation are examples that show a path to cure the disease. Nobody should be trusted with too much power for too long.

> Power corrupts, end of story.

Not all corruption is obvious though. Sometimes you think you are doing the right thing, "just need to bend the rules slightly over here". It is all for a "good cause". I feel like I am as much worried about people who are the righteous wrong, as much as people who are just out there trying to grift to make a buck.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Aerbil313 »

jimbohn wrote: post #159
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #80

It would fit perfectly if Epstein was a Russian agent. - Where did he get his money from? - Who's interests are served by this whole dodgy setup? - The Trump connection. - The Trump Russia connection. Maybe I imagine but it all seems aligned.

As a European, I find it very funny to see how nobody in the US is willing to address the elephant in the room called Mossad. This looks more likely an israeli operation which sourced girls from russia and likely had the FSB as a customer/scratch my back I scratch yours/collab thing. I mean, most US politicians and the president seem to be on an "israel first" agenda.

It doesn't help that almost all members of the U.S. congress is funded by AIPAC. See how much your representative received from AIPAC here: https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by veunes »

whatever1 wrote: post #150

Power corrupts, end of story. Democracy (limited terms), taxation and anti-monopoly regulation are examples that show a path to cure the disease. Nobody should be trusted with too much power for too long.

I'd rephrase it as: nobody should be trusted with unchecked power, especially when it's exercised quietly and indirectly
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