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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm »

reacharavindh wrote: post #36
zackify wrote: post #24

I just can't get over how none of this is new. 6 months ago I was running "summarize my work" tasks using linear and github mcps just using a cron task and claude code. The hype around openclaw is wild

To me, the magic is around interactions with personal info where they are - iMessages, e-mails, etc. I still am wart to open up like this, but it certainly is not as simple as Claude code and cron task. The “you can already do this via rsync + FTP” comment on Dropbox Show HN thread comes to mind.

It's a bit different than the Dropdox situation because the market is already flooded, the big players have their options, the cycle is rapid (who's langchain?)

I hope, think, and build towards a world where there will be fewer winner-take-all in this foundational tech

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Post by theYipster »

codeulike wrote: post #52

If you're on MS stack, this is all stuff that MS 365 Copilot will already do for you, but with much better defined barriers around what it can and cant access.

Assuming you are using the flagship copilot that is a $30 / mo add on to a 365 subscription, and maybe, maybe if Microsoft replaced CoPilot’s “brain” with Opus 4.5. In my experience, while flagship CoPilot does deliver value if setup correctly, it’s no where near as capable an “agent” as Claude. (And even though Open Claw is now model agnostic, there is a reason for its association to Claude. Despite it’s expense, I find Opus 4.5 works best.)

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm »

fassssst wrote: post #202
causal wrote: post #20

I'm still trying to understand what makes this project worthy of like 100K Github stars overnight. What's the secret sauce? Is it just that it has a lot of integrations? Like what makes this so much more successful than the ten thousand other AI agent projects?

It’s easy to use

this is typically good for new users and toy projects

this doesn't look like something enterprises would lean in to (normally, but we are in a new kind of hype period, one without clear boundaries between mini-cycles, where popularity trumps many other qualities)

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Post by nunez »

dcre wrote: post #108

Fine article but a very important fact comes in at the end — the author has a human personal assistant. It doesn't fundamentally change anything they wrote, but it shows how far out of the ordinary this person is. They were a Thiel Fellow in 2020 and graduated from Phillips Exeter, roughly the most elite high school in the US.

Exeter had a hella good policy debate team back in the day. Probably still do; I've been out of the loop for a while.

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Post by jackb4040 »

emp17344 wrote: post #113
bennydog224 wrote: post #109

> it's hard to go back without feeling like i would be willingly living my most important relationship in amnesia. This made me think this was satire/ragebait. Most important relationship?!?

Another victim of AI psychosis. I think this is actually becoming a huge problem among tech enthusiasts and I’m increasingly worried about it.

Normal people don't feel the need to characterize their own blog posts as "sane"

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by jen729w »

dcre wrote: post #108

Fine article but a very important fact comes in at the end — the author has a human personal assistant. It doesn't fundamentally change anything they wrote, but it shows how far out of the ordinary this person is. They were a Thiel Fellow in 2020 and graduated from Phillips Exeter, roughly the most elite high school in the US.

When I saw them buying $80 Arc'teryx gloves that was enough for me.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by skybrian »

lunar_mycroft wrote: post #185
skybrian wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banks will try to get out of it, but in the US, Regulation E could probably be used to get the money back, at least for someone aware of it. And OpenClaw could probably help :) https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/regulation-e/

I'm not a lawyer, but if I'm reading the actual regulation [0] correctly, it would only apply in the case of prompt injection or other malicious activity. 1005.2.m defines "Unauthorized electronic fund transfer" as follows: > an electronic fund transfer from a consumer's account initiated by a person other than the consumer without actual authority to initiate the transfer and from which the consumer receives no bene…

Good point. Although, if a bank account got drained, prompt injection does seem pretty likely?

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by dang »

cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

"Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by afro88 »

sjdbbdd wrote: post #19

Did the author do any audit on correctness? Anytime I let the LLM rip it makes mistakes. Most of the pro AI articles (including agentic coding) like this I read always have this in common: - Declare victory the moment their initial testing works - Didn’t do the time intensive work of verifying things work - Author will personally benefit from AI living up to the hype they’re writing about In a lot of the authors exam…

Would love to know this too. When he talks about letting clawdbot catch promises and appointments in his texts, how many of those get missed? How many get created incorrectly? Absolutely not none. But maybe the numbers work compared to how bad he was at it manually?

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by svieira »

chzblck wrote: post #169
cj wrote: post #26

Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

My old CEO - ex sun/greenplum/pivotal swore that sending an email in lowercase forced the other person to read the whole message and not skim.

ItisevenbetterwhenyoudropthespacesthatREALLYforcespeopletoengagewithyourcontent. FormaaimxlgarbteihratttenionandHLODitscrmblaetheintreiorofwrdos! /s
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