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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by f33d5173 »

its_ubuntu wrote: post #240
j-conn wrote: post #182

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100% agree, many people don’t realize just how harmful wood smoke is. It’s also the main source of pollution in the Bay Area during the winter. Unfortunately energy costs are high enough here that people resort to burning wood to save money, so collectively beneficial policies are likely to face resistance (understandably). The purpleair map has been awesome to at least make the problem visible. I hope they are using…

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> Did you notice how they have banned and demonized tobacco, but the lung cancer rate keeps increasing?

No, I noticed the opposite. They demonized tobacco, and lung cancer rates went dowm precipitously.

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throw20251220 wrote: post #221
dhosek wrote: post #100

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Maybe if they spent less money on cigarettes they could afford other things.

Maybe. Go and ask them. Maybe they are truly awful people, maybe they are old or ill, or disabled. Go and talk to them, then start labelling them x and y. See? No one got the idea. All “you” want is that nobody bothers “you”. But thinking from the perspective of others? No, that’s too difficult. The best realisation I had in life was that I am pissing others off for some reasons, as they piss me off for some other re…

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by defrost »

its_ubuntu wrote: post #239
robocat wrote: post #219

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The stink remains even for efficient fires. Smoke is often correlated of course. I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand which gets winter smog,. The city council enforces rules and woodburners need to meet strict emission standards. They regularly tighten the rules so that if you want a woodburner you need to replace it every 15 years or so. But they do still smell. The rules have radically improved the air quality here an…

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Invasive "elites" are harder to eradicate than possums :/

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by its_ubuntu »

wingworks wrote: post #144
nkrisc wrote: post #131

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> Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed. They’re more pleasant to coexist with because they let their smoke drift into my home instead of their own? What? They’re just externalizing the negatives of their own vice.

Yeah, it's a bit worrying that some people don't seem to understand that just because you enjoy smoking, doesn't mean the rest of the units downstream of you want to breath it in too.

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by its_ubuntu »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #147
gljiva wrote: post #119

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> you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives They're awful people because they are drug addicts who insist on making their unbearable smoke part of our lives too.

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by its_ubuntu »

LightBug1 wrote: post #76
binaryturtle wrote: post #14

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I wish there was an easy solution like this for smoking "neighbours". Some sort of detection device that instantly closes my windows automatically and then "explodes" a nasty "stinking bomb" outside (e.g. automatic opening of a container with butyric acid or similar), so it smells worse than their smoke. Eventually their brains would connect smoking with nasty stinking and stop doing it. But I wouldn't know where to…

I had this problem ... a smoker who would religiously sit on their patio and smoke so much that it would smoke us out of our house. After speaking with them didn't help ... my next response was to religiously water the garden at the same time with my jet spray ... I have amusing videos (from our CCTV) of our neighbour regularly diving for cover from an "accidental" spray of water. "Sorry. I'm just watering our plants…

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by AlwaysRock »

wingworks wrote: post #148
nntwozz wrote: post #90

Not saying it's right for everyone, but I moved off-grid where my nearest neighbor is 5km away. 20 years in an apartment in the city was enough for me, as I grew older I realized there are too many things outside of my control if I want silence and peace of mind. Sound pollution is a very real baseline stressor.

I'm sure it depends on demographic/country etc, but I've lived in Apartments where everyone was considerate, no loud neighbours, no smokers. Everyone just peacefully co-existed. (I've also experienced the opposite, and unfortunately, it is more common.)

All it takes is one good neighbor moving out and a bad one moving in next door…

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by its_ubuntu »

appreciatorBus wrote: post #169
stevage wrote: post #91

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Only because you're defining one as normal and the other as abnormal.

It is possible for the human species to exist without cigarette smoke, and doubtless for at least part of our history it did not exist. It is not possible for the human species (or any form of mortal biological life) to exist without children. If you want to try to define the latter observation of reality as “abnormal”, fill your boots.

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Post by decafninja »

mancerayder wrote: post #151
nntwozz wrote: post #90

Not saying it's right for everyone, but I moved off-grid where my nearest neighbor is 5km away. 20 years in an apartment in the city was enough for me, as I grew older I realized there are too many things outside of my control if I want silence and peace of mind. Sound pollution is a very real baseline stressor.

I can relate to this very much. A city guy, no one could understand my (also) 20 years of complaining about neighbors with loud music, slamming doors, making noise after midnight, etc etc. I lived on top floors, and I even spent a fortune living in a luxury building that was newly built, hoping sound insulation was higher end. The problem is that bass music travels through everything. I suffered from being woken up i…

There are a few topics that illicit this kind of response. I've lived in apartments/condos ever since I moved out of my parents' home, and living through Covid in an apartment was the nail in the coffin. My wife and I decided we would not live in a shared building again - at minimum, we'd only look for places that have a private entrance.

Based on the behavior of real estate in our area (high density suburbs of NYC), I don't think we're the only ones? Condo prices have either fallen or remained static while SFH have skyrocketed.

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