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Film students who can no longer sit through films

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Post by mna_ »

BackacheDescent wrote: post #223
mna_ wrote: post #218

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That's a good list, but it's quite a western list. It's missing some great films from Socialist era Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, etc. If you'd like to know some of my favourites, just let me know.

Please. And would you suggest any lists/forums which you found good?

Please see my reply to JKCalhoun. As for lists, I used other people's lists on Mubi a lot back when I used to watch/torrent 1 film per day (from 2008 to 2015), and for good forums there's Karagarga, rateyourmusic, letterboxd is OK, rutorrent is OK if you can read Russian, and there used to be an arthouse IRC channel on rizon back in the days but it's dead now. I stopped watching films religiously around 2015-2016, so I don't know where the cool kids hang anymore. Maybe Discord?

Here's an example of a Mubi list (not my list and not my account): https://mubi.com/en/lists/vintage-japanese-horror

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Post by obruchez »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #207
semilin wrote: post #35

If you really care about something, screen addiction does not interfere. A friend of mine has a terrible Instagram addiction, yet has developed for himself a certain degree of cinephilia lately -- we've watched long movies together in theaters and not once has he been on his phone during the screenings. When one has faith that sustained attention might hold more value than that gained by interruption, they tend to pr…

Anyone that wants their own private "film school", can invest 10 years or so and work through the "1001 Movies to See Before You Die" [1]. It's a book compiled by several film critics as I understand it. For each of the films there's a page or two explaining the significance of the film (according to the critic that chose it for the list). My wife and I have been at it for perhaps 6 years now. We probably have 3 year…

I've finished IMDb's top 250 a few years ago. I'm now using this list ("a list of greatest films of all time") as a reference:

https://www.phi-phenomenon.org/

It's merging dozens of "greatest films" lists into a single "master" list.

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Post by Throaway1985232 »

y0eswddl wrote: post #232
perching_aix wrote: post #126

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> But the article points out that the students here don't even watch movies themselves -- "students have struggled to name any film" they recently watched. Why are these people even studying film? The inattention is clearly caused by disinterest. There's a saying around here that roughly goes: few things are as successful in killing one's interest in something as pursuing a formal education about it. Being innately i…

it's not just a saying, literally anytime you introduce external rewards for a behavior, you kill any intrinsic motivation for doing the thing.

opposite in my case

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Post by mym1990 »

bccdee wrote: post #235
mym1990 wrote: post #191

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12401922/ "In contrast[to drug withdrawal], smartphone dependence is driven by digital stimuli and psychological-behavioral mechanisms, with almost no physical dependence; withdrawal mainly causes psychological discomfort (such as restlessness) without severe physical reactions. Its health risks are mostly indirect (like vision loss, sleep disorders), and withdrawal can genera…

This is a study finding that physiological smartphone withdrawal doesn't exist. Smartphone dependence is merely "psychological-behavioural," and you can develop a psychologically dependent relationship with anything. Being dependant on your girlfriend doesn't make you "addicted" to her. Please, find 10 more studies—this is making my point for me. Again, I'm not saying our relationship with smartphones is healthy. I'm…

Thanks for proving my point! Insomnia and sleep deprivation are highly dependent on both psychological and physiological factors. You want studies for that too? Every addiction stems from some combination of psychology and biology because the the brain factors into everything we do, consciously or sub-consciously. What about addiction to porn, not a real thing I guess?

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Post by crazygringo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #212
crazygringo wrote: post #190

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Why are you even trying to argue this? You're repeatedly saying things like: > Why sit through a warped & incomplete version of a mediocre movie when you could just turn it off & watch the complete version of something consistently good? That's nonsense. You don't know if a movie is mediocre or consistently good until you watch it. Or it might be mostly very good with some not-so-good parts, in which it's better to w…

You're getting just as judgemental as them about what works better. And trying to pull rank isn't going to make you right.

Wrong. It's not being judgmental when I'm defending how I watch movies.

Not once have I told anyone else how they should watch movies. Meanwhile, the person I'm responding to is telling me how I should watch differently.

See the difference?

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Post by Dylan16807 »

crazygringo wrote: post #245
Dylan16807 wrote: post #212

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You're getting just as judgemental as them about what works better. And trying to pull rank isn't going to make you right.

Wrong. It's not being judgmental when I'm defending how I watch movies. Not once have I told anyone else how they should watch movies. Meanwhile, the person I'm responding to is telling me how I should watch differently. See the difference?

The person you're responding to argued that you have an attention span issue. That's not really the same as telling you what you should do.

And "It's boring. [...] Just speed it up and improve your experience." comes across pretty close to telling people what to do, at least as much as what bccdee said.

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Post by KevinMS »

semilin wrote: post #35

If you really care about something, screen addiction does not interfere. A friend of mine has a terrible Instagram addiction, yet has developed for himself a certain degree of cinephilia lately -- we've watched long movies together in theaters and not once has he been on his phone during the screenings. When one has faith that sustained attention might hold more value than that gained by interruption, they tend to pr…

> Why are these people even studying film? The inattention is clearly caused by disinterest.

Because they want to, or are forced by their social circle, have a college degree credential, and this is the one that matched closest to their interests (they like watching stuff).

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Post by Revolution1120 »

bccdee wrote: post #173
bronlund wrote: post #159

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Not too long ago, reading books was also considered evil. It was argued that they were addictive and antisocial. You sound like those people who think Battleship Potemkin is the greatest movie of all time.

> Not too long ago, reading books was also considered evil. Yeah, well, they were wrong and I'm right. > You sound like those people who think Battleship Potemkin is the greatest movie of all time. 100% critic & 86% user approval on Rotten Tomatoes, 97/100 on Metacritic. Universally acclaimed, massively influential. Have you considered that Battleship Potemkin might just be a good movie? Have you tried watching it?

That's right. Just over a decade ago, reading magazines like "Story Club" was considered a waste of time and energy.
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