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Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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That policy of theirs has existed for a long time now. It's a really odd one at that. They also don't enforce DMARC, nor do DKIM. It's stuck nearly four decades in the past.

Microsoft has a similar policy on their consumer domains though. If they have not received mail from you for a month or so you are insta blocked. It's infuriating for personal mail server owners.

When I ran my own mail server Microsoft was the only company I encountered that would black hole my messages - no SMTP error for my own server to bounce back to me, no bounce back from their server, nothing. I vaguely recall having to do a dance with them a few times to fix this and the last time I tried I received no response. I don't frequently interact with Office 365 users so this didn't matter much to me.

I did end up later moving to Proton primarily out of laziness. I thought these issues would be a thing of the past until I applied to work at a company that administered their own Exchange server that also black holed my messages from Proton's servers. Their reasoning? "We geo-block Switzerland for security reasons." Needless to say I turned them down.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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I own a FTTH connection to Telekom since 2018, as the only provider in my street, allowed to install an internet connection (only glass fiber). Since then, I have always used my own device and I maintain a GitHub Snippet in how to connect OpenWRT modem (and by extension, any other modem that supports pppoe), rather than their Huawei SpeedPort crap or the more expensive Fritz Box). Link to Gist : https://gist.github.c…

> I use PiHole in my own network, circumnavigating the DNS limitations, using Quad9 as my main DNS provider, but Unbound is on my to-do list.

Why is PiHole necessary to dodge DNS limitations: can't you just put Quad9 as the DNS in your router/FritzBox?

Now I switched from PiHole to running unbound on a... Pi! I did that years ago: do it, you won't be disappointed.

I don't have the shiny PiHole UI anymore but I don't care: unbound supports wildcards to blacklist domains and that's what I care the most about.

So a Pi with unbound then dnsmasq on my Linux desktop: this makes for very speedy lookups (as most queries are hitting the cache).

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Telekom is a bunch of strange folks. I lately was not able to send mails, from my private mail servrr to my fathers telekom mail. After investigation I found out my server got blocked. After a decade of working. I mailed them, and they told me to register my mailserver with them. I shall tell them what mails I will send from there and about what content. I couldn’t believe my eyes. Sure, thats how mail was supposed t…

but the fun thing about them is, they allow you to impersonate any mail address you want with their smtp server. Aka, when you are a customer of them you get a @t-online.de address and login data for their smtp server. You can just login into that server and set the From: Header to anything, they don't check.

In Germany I'd be surprised if the police didn't come to your house when you did that, and take all your computers to find evidence you sent it, and you're not getting them back even if you're proven innocent.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft has a similar policy on their consumer domains though. If they have not received mail from you for a month or so you are insta blocked. It's infuriating for personal mail server owners.

When I ran my own mail server Microsoft was the only company I encountered that would black hole my messages - no SMTP error for my own server to bounce back to me, no bounce back from their server, nothing. I vaguely recall having to do a dance with them a few times to fix this and the last time I tried I received no response. I don't frequently interact with Office 365 users so this didn't matter much to me. I did…

Oh when I ran my own mailserver I did get SMTP errors back.

Every month or so I had this issue and I had to contact them through a form somewhere and I would get emails back from someone in india who reset my 'reputation'. They have some stupid made-up reputation system which means they need to see significant volume from you that is not marked as spam for them to accept your mailserver.

And yeah proton has similar issues. A lot of companies blackhole even confirmation emails there. So you can't confirm accounts with a proton email and they give zero indication as to why. Tinder and the internet archive (archive.org) come to mind.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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I like the subtle bit of trolling they did with the page color: DT had registered that shade of magenta as a trademark, made it a core part of their brand and generally was VERY vocal in public about "owning" that color. [1, 2] Though more recently they seem to have lost that protection. [3] So if that page now deliberately uses the "Telekom color" to call out their bad behavior, that's a statement on its own. [1] ht…

That's the first thing I saw too. dataJAR (an Apple MDM service company in the UK) were targetted in the UK for using a different shade of pink in a different industry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-44107621

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Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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I own a FTTH connection to Telekom since 2018, as the only provider in my street, allowed to install an internet connection (only glass fiber). Since then, I have always used my own device and I maintain a GitHub Snippet in how to connect OpenWRT modem (and by extension, any other modem that supports pppoe), rather than their Huawei SpeedPort crap or the more expensive Fritz Box). Link to Gist : https://gist.github.c…

You have the right to router freedom even with FTTH. And fortunately, with DTAG FTTH, you can also book 1und1 with good peering (:

router freedom yes, but the Telekom Black Box that takes as input the Fiber cable is still a real "black box" that needs to be installed

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Yeah, but they're the only network when you want to have cellphone reception outside of dense cities. You can completely forget O2 and Vodafone if you go hiking/skiing in the Black Forest, or on the Beach at the German Islands. Also Vodafone outsourced their peering to a subcontractor, and doesn't do any public peering at all anymore. So I guess Telekom still isn't the worst Network at all

That is sadly the truth. They also charge the most per GB, but you can use any of their resellers like Congstar. Just checkout DTAG's 5G network coverage on Breitbandatlas.

It's not that bad, I pay 8.60€ per month for 30GB, and they also threw in a cheap Android Phone in the 12 Month Contract.

Also Switzerland being included is at least for me a nice perk that O2/Vodafone don't offer. But compared to other European Countries offerings it's obviously shit.

Also Fraenk is even cheaper than Congstar

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is sadly the truth. They also charge the most per GB, but you can use any of their resellers like Congstar. Just checkout DTAG's 5G network coverage on Breitbandatlas.

It's not that bad, I pay 8.60€ per month for 30GB, and they also threw in a cheap Android Phone in the 12 Month Contract. Also Switzerland being included is at least for me a nice perk that O2/Vodafone don't offer. But compared to other European Countries offerings it's obviously shit. Also Fraenk is even cheaper than Congstar

8.60€ per month? Certainly not from DTAG themselves, right?

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

#250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That policy of theirs has existed for a long time now. It's a really odd one at that. They also don't enforce DMARC, nor do DKIM. It's stuck nearly four decades in the past.

Microsoft has a similar policy on their consumer domains though. If they have not received mail from you for a month or so you are insta blocked. It's infuriating for personal mail server owners.

Microsoft and google seems hellbent on destroying classical email, by doing this crap. Their interoperability is also pretty bad.
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