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Re: European Alternatives

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Post by palata »

lmf4lol wrote: post #192
skrebbel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You simply don’t need such inflated salaries if schools are free, roads are not broken, trains exist, healthcare is affordable, grocery stores are in biking distance, parks are good and free and plenty, labor laws are in your favour, utilities markets mostly aren’t dysfunctional and a 2-bedroom apartment doesn't cost $10000/m. Americans compare their salaries to European ones but never stop to imagine the insane high…

True. But the systems are more and more breaking down. Its unsustainable. At least what I can tell from Germany and the Netherlands. to see a healthcare specialist, you wait 3-6months in some cases. Not talking about the trains. Germany DB runs on time in only 50% of the cases. So thats a big problem

> Not talking about the trains

How does that compare to the public transport situation in the US?

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by vldszn »

Notch123 wrote: post #221
vldszn wrote: post #59

I submitted my project EasyInvoicePDF (a free & open-source invoice generator) a couple of months ago to European Alternatives but never heard back unfortunately. The project has no backend and is purely browser-based, but I’m based in Europe and developing the project here, so I consider it a European project =) App: https://easyinvoicepdf.com/?template=stripe GitHub: https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf

I have been working on https://1launch.eu for the past two months. Very MVP stage. I don't plan to be in the same niche as european-alternatives, but it is very much inspired by this. It is largely meant to be a ProductHunt / AngelList for Europe with a couple of key features especially for the European market (like instant translation into all 24 languages of the EU to launch in the whole European market in one go).…

Wow, 1launch looks great! Will definitely launch there very soon.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by palata »

gtirloni wrote: post #100
tene80i wrote: post #76

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But why? What's unsustainable about an email service, for example, run by competent European engineers at European salaries?

The huge influx of competent European engineers to the US is a real thing.

Because many European engineers move to the US does not mean at all that most European engineers move to the US. There are many engineers in Europe.

I hear that argument a lot, and honestly it sounds uninformed and downright disrespectful. Some kind of "I am a US developer, we US developers are the best, and the few good European engineers come here. The remaining ones in Europe are dumb".

Not to mention that I have talked to quite a few European engineers who could earn a lot more by moving to the US, but just really don't want to live in the US. Maybe there is a reason for that?

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by troupo »

mg794613 wrote: post #120
s_dev wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've posted that twice in this thread. I don't think it's as damning as you think it is.

I agree, seems he's on a mission instead.

Ah yes. The "mission" of pointing out how bad companies are in the most trivial details.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by surgical_fire »

PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #55

Ugh, back to nationalism. I think there is some sort of Darwinistic reason for this. Maybe its inevitable. Not to say that the US didn't help spur this, but its just sad to see. When I was younger, I was such an idealist. Anarchy, open borders, free market open trade, pacifism. Even as Trump started getting aggressive, I kept trying to tell myself: "Well, these other countries surly know that most of the population d…

> Even as Trump started getting aggressive, I kept trying to tell myself: "Well, these other countries surly know that most of the population doesn't support this. Surely they know we are fans of liberalism, democracy, and human rights

A huge proportion of your electorate is actually not only fine with the current direction, but actively cheer on this.

> One bad election, everyone knows it was influenced by Russia, no big deal. They know a sane person will be elected in a few years."

This sounds a lot worse than you imagine. We will be always one election away of anothe asshole that will want to leveraged the US relative strength to cause harm. Better to not keep strengthening it.

> 100+ years of debatably good behavior, why shouldn't we be selfish?

I almost choked at this.

The US has a long history of fucking over other countries.

The only thing that changed is that it just decided to be more direct about it, even with former allies.

I actually prefer it this way.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by palata »

gtirloni wrote: post #119
kuon wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might get lower salary, but if I break my leg I pay nothing and I am paid during my leave.

I doubt you break your leg every year though. The kind of companies that we're talking about (big tech that are national champions) offers health insurance (among other benefits) and 200-500k USD/year salaries. I think culture and quality of life not withstanding, the raw numbers simply don't favor the EU becoming a tech leader with the current incentives.

> I think culture and quality of life not withstanding, the raw numbers simply don't favor the EU becoming a tech leader with the current incentives.

But maybe culture and quality of life should not be ignored :-).

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by mlitwiniuk »

Speaking of missing categories — there's no "Compliance Tools" or "GRC" category yet. I'm building humadroid.io (SOC 2 / ISO 27001 compliance platform, based in Poland) and as far as I can tell, there aren't many European alternatives in this space. Most of the established players (Vanta, Drata, Secureframe) are US-based. Would be great to see this category added.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by palata »

alberto-m wrote: post #195
ragall wrote: post #186

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Considering the low taxes and lower cost of living in Zurich (yes, lower than Seattle), and the much higher quality of life, Zurich is a no-brainer.

I'd say if you get a job in the same company, Zurich is competitive. The problem is that if you lose your job at Google in Seattle there are several hundreds of FAANG positions and probably thousands of other 200k$+ SWE jobs you can reapply to. In Zurich you will maybe see a dozen of openings in the small subsidiaries of Apple, Microsoft & Co., and maybe some individual job offers from small AI companies, and applyin…

> and applying to any of these positions basically means competing against the whole rest of the continent

Which should not be an issue, if as I read a lot in this page, "all good European engineers move to the US". It means that you only have to compete against the "bad ones" that stayed back, right? /s

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