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How long did cable, or streaming platforms last with ad-free premium?
Why would it be the same?
I'd see it as an upper limit
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#242People are reacting negatively to the ads, but there's a bigger point. This is bearish as heck for AGI. If OpenAI were recursively improving their general-computer-using agent, who was going to be superhuman at every job, they wouldn't need to be messing around with things like this. ChatGPT is a useful product, which they're monetising in a well-travelled internet company way. The bad news is you're going to have ad…
I'm surprised this isn't being talked about more. Sure, one could favourably assume that OpenAI just needs a little ad-powered financial push to finally hit AGI and solve every single problem under the sun, but that'd be a reach. It seems more probable that their internal evaluation of their ETA to AGI diverges starkly from what they communicate externally.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
The [enshittification]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification ) begins. Fixed that for you, and I agree fully with that assessment.
A plea to the wise members of this community, please stop using this word. Use degradation or decay but not this.
I don't know, I like that it somehow implies it is caused by humans. Decay is a natural process, sometimes unavoidable. Degredation is often used in the same sense. But human and organisational decisions are driving this.
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#244I question whether it matters any more. AI chat is clearly going to be the search interface of the future. phones are the channel for users with Chrome/android being one half and iphone being the other. Google just signed up Apple to be the engine for siri. We also know that users rarely change defaults. so, google would appear to have boxed out openai from the #1 use case, and already have all the pieces in place to…
I'm not sure your logic connects. With respect to "OpenAI being boxed out from [Siri]", advertisement revenue comes neither too late nor too early. Whether or not OpenAI had advertising would not have substantially affected Apple's decision to go with Google's LLM at this time. If you meant it in a different context, you didn't explain any of the actual context you had in mind.
My question is why anyone would continue to use OpenAI to look things up when existing "default" apps like Google search on Android and Siri on iphone will have excellent AI powered search.
Certainly, for indepth questions like writing term papers, someone might fire up OAI, but that doesnt automatically seem like as giant a moneymaker as simply being the fall-off-the-log easy choice for search.
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#245Seems like a big opportunity for Google to consider keeping Gemini ad-free as a differentiator. They can afford to burn cash on it for a long time to come if they choose to do so.
All enterprise users already pay for it. They’ve included it by force to the base subscription (and about 30% of our company actively uses it, according to in-app stats as an admin).
This is really what's going to kill OpenAI. Gemini bundled in Workspace is pretty good and seems to be making big leaps constantly. Some really smart integration points.
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#246So many comments and not one considers the impact political ads will have on the world.
Any interesting elections coming up ?
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#247This sounds exactly like what Google used to say about search results. Just a few ads, clearly separated from organic results, never detracting from the core mission of providing the most effective access to all the world’s information. (And certainly not driven by a secret profile of you based on pervasive surveillance of your internet activity.)
They even used to say ads were a bad idea [0]. [0] https://indieresearch.net/2014/03/30/advertising-and-mixed-m...
And then Sam Altman famously said he wasn't sure how they would monetize, and they would ask ChatGPT how they should make money.
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How do you propose they fund the free usage otherwise? They do offer a paid version without ads. (typically the ~entire general public chooses the ads: see how ad-supported products beat paid in virtually every generation of tech)
> How do you propose they fund the free usage otherwise? Why do random HN commenters have to come up with a business model for free LLM usage? If LLMs are so great, they should not need to offer a free tier at all. Surely word of mouth would make people line up around the block to snatch one of those highly coveted subscriptions.
That is happening, and they are one of the fastest growing products of all time in revenue.
But word of mouth can also say "this other provider (eg. google) is free and allows more usage" as the market matures. Google has a bigger pocketbook due to their ad income.
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Who said they had to buy it to leak the information?
Replace the word buy with view and it will still be true.
But if they're only viewing it because it was put on their screen by ChatGPT, that's a non-consensual leak of personal information to the advertiser.