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Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

threetonesun wrote: post #198
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I decided to check one of my local grocery stores because I honestly wasn't sure where they stood relative to each other. Most Little Debbie varieties, for a standard package containing 6 or 12 items depending on the size of the items, are listed at $3.19. Apples are commonly sold in 3 pound bags, which the internet suggests would contain 6-12 apples depending on the variety of apple and individual sizing. The 3 poun…

Calorie wise you'd need to 2-3 apples to equal most Little Debbie snacks, but in terms of satiation the opposite is true.

I don't disagree. I was responding to the specific claim in the post I replied to:

> I can buy a bag of apples for less than what a pack of Little Debbie snacks cost.

Satiety was not part of the post I replied to.

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Post by buellerbueller »

dizlexic wrote: post #4
reedf1 wrote: post #3

I do think this could only be temporary victory over the food industry by the pharmacology industry. It's only a matter of time until food additives or varieties are discovered that partially ameliorate the effects of ozempic.

... do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

The evidence is the future event/state/action that proves or disproves the prediction.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by stinkbeetle »

bluGill wrote: post #206
stinkbeetle wrote: post #165

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Cause and effect is backward. The locations indicate where people are buying it. And cheap doesn't really add up either because if somebody wants the cheapest possible calories they would be buying rice, flour/pasta, potato... I don't know why the problem is shied away from. It is because people are addicted to fast food and to their sedentary lifestyles. It's not the price or availability of good food, not the first…

Cooking good food takes time. I can slap some pre-made burgers in a pan, throw some buns in a toaster and have a "meal" in 10 minutes. I can stop by fast food on the way and have the same meal (at only slightly more cost) in 5 minutes. I typically spend more than an hour in the kitchen cooking every day, and then there is half an hour clean up after my family is done eating. I eat much better and healthier food, but…

> Cooking good food takes time [...]

This does not address what I wrote though because it is not what I was arguing against.

I agree part of the reason people buy junk food and fast food rather than "whole food" is because the real or perceived effort required to turn it into something they will eat. Or they don't know how to make things that can compete on taste and satisfy their food addiction like those fast foods. It's not because they are time-poor either. They are just addicted to this sedentary "lazy" lifestyle. 30 minute drive to get fast food and eat it while watching TV or tiktok for the next hour or so beats making food and cleaning up for an hour.

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Post by jacobthesnakob »

nvarsj wrote: post #205
carlmr wrote: post #6

>The share of U.S. households reporting at least one user rose from about 11% in late 2023 to more than 16% by mid-2024. I was wondering how you could get such a high impact overall. But it seems one in 6 households are on GLP-1 drugs in the US. In my friend circle in Germany I don't even know one single person on this stuff. It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them…

Why is it insane? You sound like someone who says to depressed people “just be happy”. I’m on tirzepatide but not for obesity. It completely cures my life long IBS. These are miracle drugs imo and should be as cheap and widely available as possible.

Do you seriously think that you’re not in a minority of people taking GLP-1 drugs for IBS and not weight loss?

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Post by Kreutzer »

carlmr wrote: post #6

>The share of U.S. households reporting at least one user rose from about 11% in late 2023 to more than 16% by mid-2024. I was wondering how you could get such a high impact overall. But it seems one in 6 households are on GLP-1 drugs in the US. In my friend circle in Germany I don't even know one single person on this stuff. It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them…

Perhaps they are less forthcoming about taking it. I wasn't aware my father was on it until I saw his medicine cabinet.

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Post by mminer237 »

patentatt wrote: post #174
smileysteve wrote: post #116

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Historically, this is called "fiber", and has already been regulated to be required in European breads

I find this humorous but I’m also genuinely curious what the analogy is between fiber and GLPs?

Fiber is essentially mass with little to no nutrition in it. So it makes you feel fuller without adding calories, like GLP-1 drugs.

I do think there's a strong argument that lack of fiber and protein are huge contributors to the world's obesity problems.

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Post by buellerbueller »

fellowmartian wrote: post #19
dizlexic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

it’s actually true and they’re trying to develop GLP-1 resistant foods by using other sensory channels: https://archive.is/N0whF

Capitalism creates these monstrous corpo-organisms, and while we have found one way to strangle "Big Processed Food" this article shows that BPF has a will to survive.

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Post by davidmurdoch »

u_sama wrote: post #12
carlmr wrote: post #6

>The share of U.S. households reporting at least one user rose from about 11% in late 2023 to more than 16% by mid-2024. I was wondering how you could get such a high impact overall. But it seems one in 6 households are on GLP-1 drugs in the US. In my friend circle in Germany I don't even know one single person on this stuff. It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them…

For artificial problems, artificial solutions. I think the state of food in the US is really bad, and one cannot compare such products to the superior EU food quality standards and eating habits (and city designs) which render the incentives really perverse

Meanwhile, YUM foods is probably working overtime trying to find a way to work around the effects of GLP-1.

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Post by wil421 »

wtcactus wrote: post #218
rjdj377dhabsn wrote: post #73

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Are you sure the difference didn't mostly come down to being a tourist in temporary accommodation vs having access to a familiar grocery store and your home kitchen?

I experienced the same, and no it isn’t. In Europe you don’t expect your bread to have added sugar, for instance. That tasted disgustingly. You also don’t normally expect sweeteners in your meat. Those sauces are also disgusting. Good beef meat (and in the USA there’s very good meat), needs only salt and maybe a bit of pepper. Not those weird sugary sauces they put in the USA. Seriously, for someone from Europe, some…

What kind place were you eating at the puts sauce on steak? Are you complaining about a BBQ restaurant, they are notoriously unhealthy.
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