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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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> Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? No we don't. In Eastern Block during communism everything was either expensive or unavailable to the point that picking up broken TV on the side of the road and dismantling it for parts was making complete sense and you could actually learn something. Today it is much easier. You can visit e…

Windows 10 is mostly EOL because M$ doesn't want you using older machines, no matter how powerful.

This should be a crime and they should be forced to either keep supporting Win10 (at least security updates) and/or let you install Win11 on older hardware without TPM 2.0 modules (which is a total fucking lie that it's necessary, it's purely for monetary gain so that they can track you with a unique ID for ads).

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As a user of Claude I have been worried about this.

As someone who can't stand these tools, I'm ecstatic. Y'all have been hooked by the early venture-backed "scale up at all cost" period. You're gonna get squeezed so hard once investors start demanding returns on their investments -- and this whole craze is, hopefully, coming to an end.

That's what people widely claimed about Uber: it was toast once the investor subsidies stopped. Now it's quite profitable.

People will pay more. Claude Opus 4.5 is worth more than $20 per month, as is Gemini 3 Pro. These services keep getting better. Another three years of improvement, why shouldn't that command $30 or $40 instead?

$20 is ~$10 in the year 2000 per the BLS inflation calculator (or $1.25 when priced in gold). Nobody would have thought that was expensive for such utility. These are inexpensive tools at present.

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Pluribus, I think.

Ha, explains why AI is at a loss trying to figure out the meaning behind that sentence - to recent. Perhaps that's the ultimate AI detector? Information too recent, too obscure or too useless to have been used to train language models?

Not a bad idea, though 'too recent' I think would be the only benchmark - for now, until they get faster at training. OpenAI has thrown away most of their safety team so that shouldn't be a reason anymore to delay model releases "for safety checks".

What would be too obscure or useless, when every new model boasts increasing parameter count (as if having more parameters would make the models better after a certain threshold)?

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- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

> Imagine how that impact Call of Duty or GTA

By killing the golden goose...

Game pass isn't doing well for developers and they know it.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Difference is that if subscription goes up from $10 to $15, that doesn't seem to bad. But if you want to purchase a new computer, and the price goes from $1000 to $1500, then that's a pretty big deal. (Though in reality, the price of said computer would probably go up even more, minimum double. RAM prices are already up 6-8 fold from summer)

Building a PC price is not double lol and RAM is nowhere near up 6-8x https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-pro-overclocking-32g... That 32GB for $274 was not $34-$45 in the summer. RAM is up like 3x, but RAM is one of the cheaper parts of the PC. RAM that was $100 in summer is like $300 now when I look. So that's an extra $200 maybe $300, on say a $1500 build. GPUs are not up, they are still at MSRP: https://www.b…

The MRSP for those GPUs is already inflated. There's a reason Nvidia is going to start making more RTX 3060 GPUs. Because people (and system builders) can't afford 40XX and 50XX GPUs.

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Is there a reliable service that plots hourly price per GPU per cloud through time?

I’ve been working on computeprices.com as a side project for the last year to do just that.

This is cool!

Would it be possible to add "Best Value" / "best average performance per dollar" type thing?

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You're someone who is comfortable in a terminal desktop environment on Linux. What you or I do for storage is irrelevant to the wider consumer market. Apple's hardware prices mean that millions of people buy the smallest on offer and pay Apple monthly instead. It's a deliberate play for recurring services revenue. My point is this: would they buy a phone that had virtually-zero free storage and rely solely on iCloud?…

I don't know, do these small-storage-size models actually have that big a market share compared to the others? They also sell 1 TB iPhones and I think on the latest generation the minimum storage has been increased. If nobody bought them they wouldn't sell them (see the lack of newer "mini" models). I always thought that these models with tiny storage and tiny ram (for laptops) where just so that they could hook you…

Approx 2/3rds of Americans pay Apple monthly for storage, according to consumer research.

Original source is paywalled but lifted quotes here:

https://www.idownloadblog.com/2024/08/21/cirp-survey-apple-i...

The smallest one is the cheapest, it's basic economics to assume that it sells the best. I would guess 60%+ buy the smallest, and I don't even need to look at data. You're welcome to disprove me.

The popularity of the storage subscription is basically why Apple is a $4tn company.

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But if you finance the computer (not hard to get 0% financing on consumer electronics), the price goes from $41 a month to $62 a month. It’s the same difference.

For whatever reason, people are just more into paying for $10 / subscription fees, than they into financing stuff. To such a degree that they able to pay for a bunch of subscriptions they completely forget about.

The difference is that with financing you're stuck with it (and your credit rating drops, at least in the EU here). You're not stuck with a subscription. If your income changes and you can't afford it anymore then you can cancel your subscription.

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> TSMC owns 60% of the foundry market. So if China decides to invade Taiwan, that would likely mean ~60% of CPU and GPU manufacturing capacity permanently destroyed at once. While it would certainly be devastating, do note that TSMC has fabs in places that aren't Taiwan. So their entire production wouldn't immediately go offline, and presumably China would still want to keep selling those products and would have an i…

> presumably China would still want to keep selling those products and would have an interest in avoiding destroying those factories There are rumours from seemingly credible sources that Taiwan has the TSMC factories (at least the ones located in Taiwan) rigged with explosives that they intend to trigger in case of invasion by China (as a disincentive against China invading). So China may well not have any say in th…

Why would Taiwan destroying its own assets disincentivize annexation goals that have existed long before computer chips were produced there?
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