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2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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In my last job my Windows box was unbelievably slow at compilation. Windows Defender was burning 70% of the CPU on watching GCC I guess. Using Linux in a VM compiled three times faster. I don't know how people tolerate it.

I think part of it is that creating a process is cheap in Unix-style OSs, and expensive in Windows. Windows doesn't want you to exec gcc, cpp, ld, etc. over and over again. It wants you to run an IDE that does it all in one process.

How many IDEs run it all in one process? As far as I know they still call lots of processes.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Is it Win11 Pro? I'm wondering if it's different than Win11 Home. A friend of mine got a new PC as a present and it had Win11 on it. Found out it was Win11 Pro. I turned it on without it connected to my router, used the Shift+F10 trick to bypass OOBE and setup a local account, and ran a debloat script, and things seemed OK. The debloat script had removal commands for a lot of default apps and I think only the Xbox on…

> I used a .reg file to disable the new context menu. Complaints about Win 11 performance abound. Brings back slow context menu. The purpose of the new context menu is to get rid of the COM init that made it so slow!

I haven't noticed slowness in the right click menu on <= windows 10. On Windows 11 it's slower simply because I have to open a second menu to get to what I want.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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I've been preaching this for a while but the era of PC as in "personal computing" is coming to an end and will slowly but surely be replaced with CC, Corporate Computing, where the corporations own everything, the hardware, the software and only permit you to use their equipment against a monthly fee and only to the extent they allow and permit. Everything you do will be controlled and observed and extracted for data…

I'm kind of glad I'm an old guy and got to live through the "golden age" of computing in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I get to check-out in the next 20-30 years or so, before things get really bad. The future really is looking ever more shitty year after year. Back in the 90's I had real hope for the future, but that has faded.

I was born in the 90s, but I'm nostalgic for the 80s/90s at least w.r.t computers.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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It is incredibly user hostile. And it's not even free. This is an ecosystem you pay for. They're treating folks shelling out $200 for an OS as if they were cattle on the adtech train.

Here's hoping that Apple can correct-course from this path. Last time I daily-drove macOS (Sequoia) it was pushing adverts in my face with every native app I launched.

What specific apps are showing ads?

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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I would expect Microsoft to relegate little used features to CLI rather than figure out how to integrate them into the UX.

Depends if they want their OS to be easy to use with wide appeal like macOS, or a CLI nightmare like Arch.

And seeing as Windows is now a nightmare, and I am a technical person, I’ve moved everything to Linux.

Everything is still harder to get set up right on Linux, but it stays right. I’ve also found the LLM’s dramatically shorten the time required to configure things I don’t have experience with.

MS have abandoned their power users, and the power users (some of them at least), are abandoning MS. I keep Windows around in a VM for work purposes; never had a better setup! I’m in complete control of my PC again.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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I did a clean install of Windows 11 when Windows 10 went EOL. From all of the complaints I was hearing from headlines I expected a disastrous experience. But to be honest, it’s been fine. I’m not a heavy user but I switch to the Windows PC at least once a day for a few hours of CAD, gaming, and one other engineering program that is Windows only. I don’t click any of the AI buttons. I declined the OneDrive or backup s…

After long-term usage, my environment on MacOS (laptop issues mainly!!!) stutters and becomes less-usable. Perhaps Windows, or Linux, or JUST NO COMPUTER WHATSOEVER would be better? MacOS is less for power users. On my Mac (macbook pro with Notch) I can no longer see menu-bar apps, since I have 11 icons up there which are not from Apple. The 12th / 13th are simply inaccessible. Added Tailscale this week .. Annnnnd it…

You can disable the notch altogether; in display settings opt+click on scaled to select the resolution list you should see some resolutions that are just a few vertical pixels apart.

Select the one with the smaller vertical value, this will turn the notch off at the cost of that small loss of vertical space.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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I don’t believe for a second that it was a mistake. Probably got a call from some C-level and came up with this excuse.

Do you have any idea just how much code is in Windows? I did a quick search and estimates are in the 50-60 million lines range. No way in hell are they going to rewrite all that in a few years. Even if they actually wanted to, which they don't because it would be a truly enormous expense (even for Microsoft). Not to even mention that huge software projects have a well deserved reputation for failing, and the scope of…

Good news, because part of the original post was that engineers should soon be able to handle a million lines of code a month. So 60 engineers to birth an OS in a month.

  … Our strategy is to combine AI *and* Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases. Our North Star is “1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code,” Galen Hunt, who is a top-level Distinguished Engineer at Microsoft, wrote in a now-edited LinkedIn post.…
Maybe he did not say Windows, but it is not a leap to imagine it falls under the umbrella of “largest codebases”

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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For me the strange and unproductive direction Windows is going towards in encapsulated in the right-click menu in the file manager (Explorer). 11 has a shiny new menu that shows up when you right click. But it is a new coat of paint over the ones from 10 or before. Additional options from for example 7zip don't show up in it. You have to click "more options" at the bottom which them reveals the old menu. There is no…

> except for the fact that it is aesthetically more "modern" to its detriment. And also much, much slower. The old context menu is nearly instant even when stuffed with extensions. When the new one is full of extensions, it takes full seconds to load the entire menu. You get a partial load, then the extensions pop in (and of course pushes elements down/up so now you misclick). I don't even know how anyone could exper…

The old context menu can get slow as hell too, there have been third party tools to manage it for ages, like https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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> I’m not a heavy user but I switch to the Windows PC at least once a day for a few hours of CAD, gaming, and one other engineering program that is Windows only. Well yeah, maybe lead with that. It seems like you don't actually need windows other than being a launcher for some very specific apps.

Isn't that all an OS is? A platform to launch apps?

It’s an impoverished view of what an OS is. A great OS is also providing APIs that enable a cohesive desktop, integrations that enable apps, and other core services.

For example, iOS has a built-in API for managing calendar events. That means my third-party to-do list can show a calendar view with everything from my iOS-managed calendar. Similarly, iOS has an API that enables third-parties to build apps that interact with Apple Music - so you don’t need to use the default client. Another example is focus modes/contextual computing - the OS enables configuring various settings in an automatable way. Another service is the health-tracking database - all my health apps share a common view of data, so my nutrition app can see my weigh ins, calories burned, and glucose levels - all coming from different devices.

On macOS, it goes beyond being just a launcher by providing rich file system services - for example, features to automate working on directories as contents change. It provides integration points to enable providing actions/services that work on text fields. It lets you configure dictionaries that support right-click/force press to look up. It implements a rich eMacs-inspired shortcut system in text fields.

Windows used to have APIs and integrations to support showing calendar events in the clock area. It was going to have a unified tab system that let you have windows with tabs provided by other apps (Sets).

In other words, an OS isn’t just a launcher. It’s a system.

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