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Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by franktankbank »

hu3 wrote: post #163
xp84 wrote: post #102

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It’s what you get when you install a hack print designer who knows nothing about UI as the head of software design and leave him there for a decade. Even Jony Ive, who also had no business designing software, didn’t respect Dye. Thank goodness Meta has done Apple the biggest favor of the century by poaching him.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see quality control improving with Dye's leave. The man had a bad taste for design but bug prevalence is endemic and changing head of design won't fix that.

How is it possible that the head of a divisions particular UX taste pervades the product?

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Post by franktankbank »

lapcat wrote: post #88
g947o wrote: post #22

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I think this goes both ways. Famously, Jobs' demands pushed engineers to think and work harder to achieve what they think was impossible, which resulted in many of the most iconic designs of personal electronic devices in history. On the other hand, we have butterfly keyboard and this.

Jobs did not run on a fixed annual schedule like Tim Cook does. Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 all took over 12 months to develop, sometimes much more, and 10.5 was famously delayed out to 30 months. Jobs may have pushed engineers, but he was more careful about what he pushed out the door to consumers.

Doesn't sound very agile..............

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Post by mrkstu »

phantasmish wrote: post #153
eoskx wrote: post #60

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I've had similar observations with different behaviors in Safari and Finder. One would think the quality of Apple's software would be increasing with the usage of Swift over Objective-C, but the opposite seems to be true.

There are like a half-dozen blatant bugs I encounter between daily and weekly in Safari. Text input and textarea editing is buggy in a couple ways, Apple Pay has a positioning bug where sometimes its bottom button is about 1/3 off the screen, certain elements on a couple pages smear when I scroll (but only sometimes). Not even counting ways the keyboard itself is worse now. I haven’t seen browsing this buggy outside…

I’ve highly preferred Safari on Mac OS for a very long time- the bugs and memory leaks are forcing me to Firefox at this point, it’s completely unusable on the betas I’ve been driving lately in the hope they fix the previous bugs.

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Post by DonHopkins »

mvkel wrote: post #51

One of the most egregious issues with macOS 26 is the accessibility/usability regression. Apple prided itself on making their operating system accessible. Good ux is inherently accessible. There are so many parts of the os that flagrantly ignore well-established accessibility standards, some of which Apple themselves advocated for

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Post by jkestner »

runjake wrote: post #171
walthamstow wrote: post #114

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Spotlight is also slow and buggy now, on an M3 Pro no less. I loathe the feeling of being faster than my computer and having to wait for it to catch up, something that I haven't felt since the M1 came out.

This was my last straw that caused me to disable Spotlight: Typing something into Spotlight, having it pull up the right result and highlight it, and me hitting the Enter key, and the search results suddenly updating after and highlighting some new result and then opening that instead. It’s not just Liquid Glass. It’s bugs like these where I realized Apple software was truly rotten to the core. Whomever is running th…

That laggy behavior plus indexing not appearing to find some obvious files made me switch to Raycast.

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Post by jessegrosjean »

I dislike Liquid Glass.

At the same time I make Mac apps and I've got to adopt liquid glass to keep my apps looking alive/updated. How to do this without making my apps UI worse?

I would love to see some "how to fix Liquid Glass" type articles. List out the problems, list out potential solutions.

Anyone run across articles like this? Please share relevant links.

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Post by docmars »

stefanfisk wrote: post #118
coldpie wrote: post #111

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Fair. I guess I haven't had that experience, but so much stuff is web-based these days that probably 90% of my computing time is just spent in a browser and the rest in just a handful of applications that I know well.

I'd guess that I am unusually picky about UX for being a techie. The story would probably have been very different 20 years ago when fiddling with my computer was more of a hobby than a chore.

I'm completely with you on this. Everything from scrolling to how windows behave makes a huge difference in the feeling of quality and responsiveness.

Once you're spoiled by a macOS machine's smoothness, it's hard to use anything else, where cursors feel like they're literally lagging behind your trackpad movements and land somewhere imprecise, and scrolling feels like opening a rusty car door as it catches on itself and you feel the friction.

macOS on an Apple Touchpad is like using a well-oiled machine by comparison. These things really matter!

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Post by seemaze »

downrightmike wrote: post #236
apexalpha wrote: post #156

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>I don't mind how Liquid Glass looks at all. I do, and the fact that it isn't even optional is crazy. Windows Vista vibes where they first looked at what the could technically pull off on todays' hardware. And mind you: Liquid Glass is very impressive! . It's just not necessary.

Who decided things that slide in place need to jiggle like jello?!

I've been describing it as if the ui has been covered in corn syrup; like it has been drizzled in a slow and sticky and slightly blurry layer of transparent obfuscation.

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Post by crooked-v »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #27
efficax wrote: post #18

liquid glass is a total disaster. what the hell is going on in the ux teams at apple? this is like their windows vista era. i hate it so much

I'm almost positive that it's because they want to make as many apps as possible VisionOS-friendly. I suspect that they were rather shaken at how poorly AVP was received.

VisionOS doesn't actually have the degree of transparency of Liquid Glass, though, which makes the whole thing particularly weird. It has a much more opaque frosted glass effect.
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