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anyone want to buy a 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 kit that only fails memtest86 some of the time?
I wonder if semi-reliable RAM could be made to work for training. After all gradient descent already works in a stochastic environment, so maybe the noise from a few flipped bits doesn't matter too much.
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Is it better? As with all price gouging, better for those who can afford it, sure, but not for those who can't. The proper way to combat scalping is to implement fair allocation methods (for a start purchase quantity limits) and punish people for scalping. Look at how most places handled war-time gasoline shortages. Rationing coupons, purchase limits, demand leveling (like the odd-even system), price or profit contro…
The high prices ("price gouging") perform a social function because some cannot afford it; they prioritize what matters to them more, and ram is left available to those who absolutely require it. Trying to get around that by forcing prices below the market price simple encourages scalping behaviors. If prices are below the market price, but at the market price you would prefer the cash in your pocket over the ram sti…
This is not true at all. It isn't left available to those who absolutely need it but to those who can pay for it. Those are two very different things.
I just checked my go-to stores in Europe. Holy shit. I bought a 5200-speed 16GB DDR5 kit in October for 55 eur. Now it's selling for 240 eur. The 6000-speed model is now 390 eur.
July: 172,38 € for a 2x32GB DDR5-6000 kit Best price for the same one now: 689,55 €
They even have one SKU of 2x32GB DDR5-6400 that’s gone to… €4480
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There won't be any new production capacity until DDR6 comes out. There is no point in investing into an obsolete technology like DDR5.
China will happily take that business. They are producing DRAM now arent they?
I wish they didn't stop producing DDR4, at least they'd be the sole producer of that.
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It's just surge pricing to manage demand, not "price gouging". Being able to buy RAM at high prices is a lot better than being unable to source it at all because everyone else is panic-hoarding.
It's speculative price gouging. Calling it "surge pricing" doesn't stop erosion of consumer trust in the market. Watch now as more people more readily jump to price fixing conclusions. Not helped by the inevitable further increase in speculation through feedback loops and the resultant volatility. First come first served is a better principle than "surge pricing". A lottery is a better principle than "surge pricing".…
>I'd rather reward diligence and personal responsibility - if you monitor market trends, anticipate needs, and act quickly, such as buying RAM ahead of a known upcoming supply crunch, you're rewarded with access at the original price. Rather than passive reliance on wealth to solve problems. First come first served values effort and foresight. Scarcity is managed through time and effort rather than money.
Are you really going to discount the effort made by the manufacturers to produce the product? You know, giving them money is the best way for them to produce more products. A lucrative DRAM market will also make it easier for new competitors to enter the market.
Also, if everyone does what you suggest, then all that will happen is that the price will rise extremely rapidly before the actual supply crunch even happened. That sounds like what is currently happening.
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Free GPUs for everyone! Bring a truck!
I honestly can't wait to use used gpus as lego bricks similar to what kids in Weimar republic did with cash
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I'm sure if they didn't keep the prices somewhat similar, you would have a bunch of people in Europe selling RAM to Americans.
> I'm sure if they didn't keep the prices somewhat similar, you would have a bunch of people in Europe selling RAM to Americans. I was just about to edit my response to the GP to say the same thing. Let's explore this hypothetical situation a bit further. Suppose there was a DRAM manufacturer named "Acme DRAM" which decided to have a separate pricing schedule for the EU reflecting the lack of insane US tariffs. Some…
Re-badging is a thing that some companies do actually do, despite what the DoJ says.
> Importers of goods into the U.S. should expect criminal enforcement to accelerate in the coming months and years.
I am absolutely not a lawyer, but wouldn't "importers" be the USA residents, not the EU businesses doing the exporting?
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The current prices are a response to future stock, not current. It's 100% retailers price gouging with their current stock that they got for cheap because they know there will be limited stock in the near future. Asian retailers may be more honest and keep their margins the same, but will catch up in a month or two.
> It's 100% retailers price gouging with their current stock that they got for cheap The retail price of a product is a function of the market rate at the intersection of supply and demand. The price paid for inventory on the shelf doesn’t matter. It works both ways. If retailers bought a lot of RAM at high prices and then the market suddenly dropped, they could have to sell it at a loss. Some people get irrationally…