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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by tempacct2cmmnt »

justinclift wrote: post #124
shevy-java wrote: post #119

> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…

Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

I’ve had much better results with Kagi than with Google in the past few months. I’d trialed them a couple times in the past and been disappointed, but that’s no longer the case.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Barathkanna »

I didn’t know “eccentric engineering” was even a term before reading this. It’s fascinating how much creativity went into solving problems before large models existed. There’s something refreshing about seeing humans brute force the weird edges of a system instead of outsourcing everything to an LLM.

It also makes me wonder how future kids will see this era. Maybe it will look the same way early mechanical computers look to us. A short period where people had to be unusually inquisitive just to make things work.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by hombre_fatal »

Barathkanna wrote: post #243

I didn’t know “eccentric engineering” was even a term before reading this. It’s fascinating how much creativity went into solving problems before large models existed. There’s something refreshing about seeing humans brute force the weird edges of a system instead of outsourcing everything to an LLM. It also makes me wonder how future kids will see this era. Maybe it will look the same way early mechanical computers…

Maybe like how I view my dad and the punchcard era: cool and endearing that he went through that, but thankful that I don’t have to.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by eszed »

AznHisoka wrote: post #191
zipy124 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly the biggest failing is just SEO spam sites got too good at defeating the algorithm. The amount of bloody listicles or quora nonsense or backlink farming websties that come up in search is crazy.

For most commercial related terms, I suspect if you got rid of all “spanmy” results you would be left with almost nothing. No independent blogger is gonna write about the best credit card with travel points.

I agree with your point, but you picked a poor example. Have you met any credit reward min-maxers?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by pvdebbe »

Zambyte wrote: post #215
dncornholio wrote: post #192

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How does Kagi know what is AI stuff? I don't see how they can 'just turn it off'

It's driven by community ratings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45919067

My first instinct is that users abuse it like they do any other report/downvote mechanism. They see something they just don't plain like, they report it as AI slop.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by buellerbueller »

amelius wrote: post #140
justinclift wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

Imo, Kagi is still the better option, because it isn't supporting the global surveillance mechanism we call advertising. All these people, missing the forest for the single yandex tree.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Alex2037 »

clucas wrote: post #202
graemep wrote: post #186

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Why this particular stand? Is doing nothing any better than taking what are essentially random stands? Obviously if you are Ukrainian this will be an important stand to you, but otherwise doing things based on a mix of what the media you like focuses on or whatever is not really very different from doing nothing.

I think "no wars of conquest" is a bright line that was crossed by Russia, that hasn't been crossed by other nations in a long time. And I think it's important for the whole world to take a stand on that, not just the nation that was invaded. It's not a "random stand."

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by bawolff »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #213
amelius wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).

Politics is not just a 1 dimensional line.
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