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Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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post #113

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AirPods can connect to any device and perform on par with other Bluetooth headphones. This is about availability of special features which require a dedicated driver non-Apple devices are not expected to have.

They don't. I love my airpods but it's not viable to use them with anything other than my phone.

What sort of laptop/desktop do you have? I regularly use my AirPods with my Steam Deck and they work great!

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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A cool project, when you want to use AirPods outside of Apples ecosystem. Sadly, you have to use a rooted android device with a small patch due to a bug in the Android Bluetooth implementation. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/371713238

Any idea how much latency there is between the beginning of audio being played in an app, and it then coming out the headset? I use wired headphones to study with Anki (AnkiDroid) because I've found most (inexpensive) Bluetooth headphones require a second or two to begin playing. As I'm dealing with short audio clips, this use case necessitates restarting the "audio playing" situation every few seconds. Maybe the app…

This is your host idling the connection due to the silence. Just keep something playing (like a stream of almost-silence) on loop and you won't have this problem.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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From a bit further down the page > Bluetooth DID (Device Identification) Hook > Turns out, if you change the manufacturerid to that of Apple, you get access to several special features! I hope Apple gets slammed hard by some regulatory body. Apparently there's absolutely zero magic reasons why their airpods are unable to connect to non-Apple devices; pretend you're an iPhone and you're in. EDIT: read "unable to conne…

The referenced Bluetooth bug on the Github readme seems like a pretty good reason. "We don't want to work around or deal with the bugs on other platforms" seems like a reasonable position.

This bug prevents injecting magic handshake that enables all features. It wouldn't be relevant if Apple didn't block these features in the first place.

Btw it's not some magic feature set they spent years to research. Sub $60 Soundcores have most of them if not all.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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post #72

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This take doesn’t make sense unless you’re comparing Flash to current technology, rather than the tech of its time. It’s like saying CD players were awful: sure they’re awful NOW, but they had a time and a place when they were the coolest thing around. Similarly, the only reason Flash had “bad performance” on low end devices is because people were using it to do stuff that web tech could not do. It took over a decade…

It’s one of the topics I feel I’m too biased since I spend 10 years as a flash developer. The requests for widgets and or small applications we got where simply impossible to write in a frontend only fashion at the time. And a lot of my peers moved on to work on HTML5 which was pushed hard as the successor at the time. A lot felt like a step back. I moved to native iOS and worked on games in cocoa 2D. I remember that…

Yup, this was my career path as well. I worked professionally as a Flash developer for many years but gradually that became more of an iOS developer role and I made games using Cocos2D etc.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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I’ve long found that whole feud and dynamic odd, like humanity could learn some major things about inter-group dynamics and even psychology by studying and unlocking what it’s all about. You have Apple users just happily going about their day, paying a premium because the things just work well enough together to the point that even the slightest hiccup feels like a major event, but the devices just meld into the back…

My experience, Apple people believe Apple products are flawless and when presented with a problem will find every reason to excuse Apple or say "I never do that". User: Ran into a printing issue on my Mac Fan: I never print, my Mac experience is flawless User: Screen Mirror breaks all the time Fan: I never use Screen Mirror. My Mac experience is it's flawless User: For some reason my Airpods lose audio once in a whil…

It sounds like you’re talking to some rather odd people with a strange combination of hyper devotion to Apple and high tolerance for features simply not working. I have seen plenty of people in the first camp though not nearly as much these days as I did back in the early 2010’s, but the second camp is strange to see given that’s a huge cornerstone of why people buy Apple (“it just works.” Or even the perception that it just works).

Screenshare works perfectly fine in my experience and I’m not really sure what you’re talking about with printing, but everyone’s experience differs I suppose

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve long found that whole feud and dynamic odd, like humanity could learn some major things about inter-group dynamics and even psychology by studying and unlocking what it’s all about. You have Apple users just happily going about their day, paying a premium because the things just work well enough together to the point that even the slightest hiccup feels like a major event, but the devices just meld into the back…

My experience, Apple people believe Apple products are flawless and when presented with a problem will find every reason to excuse Apple or say "I never do that". User: Ran into a printing issue on my Mac Fan: I never print, my Mac experience is flawless User: Screen Mirror breaks all the time Fan: I never use Screen Mirror. My Mac experience is it's flawless User: For some reason my Airpods lose audio once in a whil…

> when presented with a problem will find every reason to excuse Apple or say "I never do that"

...or maybe you shouldn't do that:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45706811

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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post #144

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The referenced Bluetooth bug on the Github readme seems like a pretty good reason. "We don't want to work around or deal with the bugs on other platforms" seems like a reasonable position.

This is anti-competitive measures, it's not like it's the only thing they do like this. The charging cables were the same.

Yes because Apple has a monopoly on - Bluetooth headphones you can use with Android devices??

Do console makers have to make sure that their accessories work with other consoles? Do TV manufacturers have to ensure their remotes work with other TVs?

And no you never had to buy Apple branded or licensed charging cables.

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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From a bit further down the page > Bluetooth DID (Device Identification) Hook > Turns out, if you change the manufacturerid to that of Apple, you get access to several special features! I hope Apple gets slammed hard by some regulatory body. Apparently there's absolutely zero magic reasons why their airpods are unable to connect to non-Apple devices; pretend you're an iPhone and you're in. EDIT: read "unable to conne…

I hope Apple gets slammed hard by some regulatory body.

Are we really at the point where people expect big brother to handle our headphone issues?

Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem

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post #153

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A device sold not in small part due to its noise cancelling ability, yet having no way to turn it on/off when connected to Android is not an extra convenience feature.

You can turn it on and off with long presses on the airpod stalk itself.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45944454

I meant to add it here

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