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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by lamontcg »

jaredklewis wrote: post #215
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Not as a shareholder, but as a customer and user I’m very ok if they just focus on making those rectangles. Makes no difference to me if Apple does the new “innovative” products or if some other company does it. But if Apple starts getting “visions” and those interfere with the iOS and macOS experience that I have and like now, I’ll be annoyed. I like my MacBook, AirPods, and iPhone how they are now. If they don’t sc…

> But if Apple starts getting “visions” [...]

I fear it is going to start getting visions of monetization and injecting advertisement and tracking into everything.

I don't see where the growth is coming from unless they start trying to squeeze what they've got entirely dry.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by rapatel0 »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Yeah. all you have to do is look at "Apple (lack of) Intelligence" to know that Steve's presence and taste is gone.

User: "Siri, "

Siri: "I cannot answer that right now"

User: please ask chatgpt

Siri: "Hello, sure I can ask ChatGPT · Check important info for mistakes"

ChatGPT: "Hello, how can i help you today"

User:

ChatGPT: Answers question and siri terminates conversation

User:

Egregious...

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

xwowsersx wrote: post #228
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we’ll be seeing a lot more, from Vision. The Liquid GlArse thing is because they want to make every app a Vision app. Don’t forget how unimpressive the iPhone was, when it was first introduced. It has probably become the most successful product in history.

How unimpressive the first iPhone was?? Yeah, totally... a full touchscreen computer in your pocket with no physical keyboard, pinch-to-zoom magic people thought was CGI, a browser that wasn't a joke, visual voicemail, and an OS so smooth it made every other phone look like it ran on car batteries. Truly underwhelming stuff. It literally redefined an entire industry, vaporized half the product lines at Nokia/BlackBer…

> This is the weirdest revisionist history I've ever heard.

I thought we were supposed to find less abrasive ways to engage each other, around these parts.

In any case, I admit that I could have phrased it better.

What I meant, was that “professionals” laughed at it (and there were a lot of them), but “customers,” did not.

I worked for a company, where they literally laughed in my face, when I told them “This thing will be trouble for us.” A few years later, their own product line was a smoking crater in the ground.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by lacy_tinpot »

Razengan wrote: post #238
lacy_tinpot wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's literally not true though??? I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually.

> I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually. Because most products, including iOS/macOS now, have glaring annoyances or shortcomings that have gone unfixed for a long time. If Tim Cook or even Craig Federighi etc. actually used iOS/macOS in their day to day lives, they would have run into those issues sooner or later and they'd be fixed in a day. (Hyperbole is a thing but the point sta…

> Does any CEO

Plenty of CEOs do. The comment you replied to already questioned Tim Cook's usage of Apple products.

Most Apple executives are probably using a Mac. Most engineers at Apple probably code on a Mac. Most engineers in the Bay already use Macs and have been using them for many years.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by deaux »

bschwindHN wrote: post #164
harshalizee wrote: post #61

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What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

My only two iPhones have been the iPhone SE 2016, and the 13 mini. I miss the SE but the 13 mini is really nice too. It's a shame because the SE is still perfectly capable of running most software I use on a phone, but that software has just gotten more inefficient over time.

Apple says they stopped producing minis because they didn't sell. It seems they sold relatively better than the Air, and pretty much everyone I know who still uses a device of "13" or earlier generation, is on a mini. That's about 5 people just in my social circle still on a 13 Mini, and 0 people on any other non-Mini 13th or older generation. I reckon that's the real reason they stopped making them, people who use them, are willing to stay with their phones for much longer periods. Could also be that they break less due to being smaller.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bitpush »

mullingitover wrote: post #216
bitpush wrote: post #167

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People buy Tesla for Tesla and not because CarPlay. But CarPlay is a purchasing decision factor for other brands, which means a power imbalance exists. So this is a classic game theory situation. You want all participants (Toyota, Honda, Ford) to cooperate (not have CarPlay) and not defect. So participants watch each others move. If they stick together, all of them stand to win. If one defect, in the short term they…

> People buy Tesla for Tesla and not because CarPlay. They increasingly just don't buy Tesla. Strong growth in that segment lately. I recall though, back in 2021 we rented one as a test drive situation. The UX was so horrific I did an immediate 180 on that idea. Hard pass. Carplay might've saved that sale, their stock infotainment is trash. I wouldn't be surprised if they go all on in Carplay Ultra near the end.

Oh, I'm aware. I have no love for Tesla. I was making an observation of what I see around me (plenty of new Teslas on the road even after Elons shenanigans)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by pear01 »

Razengan wrote: post #238
lacy_tinpot wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's literally not true though??? I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually.

> I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually. Because most products, including iOS/macOS now, have glaring annoyances or shortcomings that have gone unfixed for a long time. If Tim Cook or even Craig Federighi etc. actually used iOS/macOS in their day to day lives, they would have run into those issues sooner or later and they'd be fixed in a day. (Hyperbole is a thing but the point sta…

Such a silly comment. Is your theory that everyone with any decision making authority at Apple doesn't actually use the product? Even when it comes to "glaring annoyances or shortcomings"?

So odd of you to frame this as some sort of personal outrage. Like I'm so annoyed by this "glaring issue" on my device clearly the people working on this don't even use it or "it would be fixed in a day". Lol. Maybe people who actually have to get things done at a trillion dollar company don't have the same constraints as you, or relatedly, the luxury to obsess over your so-called glaring issues.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by zaphirplane »

jwr wrote: post #177
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Most importantly, it seems Cook doesn't love computers and doesn't use many (most?) of Apple products. It shows. Especially with Mac OS.

Somehow I doubt he has is emails printed out and response by dictations ;)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by overgard »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

I dunno, the stuff they have now doesn't really need a lot of innovation. Like, my MacBook isn't very different from the one I bought in 2013 (other than massive performance improvements of course), but I don't really need it to be anything other than what it is. Same with my iPhone. I'll probably only replace that when the battery life gets bad. Most of the "innovations" on those lines have been annoying (touch bar, apple AI, etc.)

In contrast, Microsoft has innovated a lot on the desktop since Windows 7 and I hate almost all of it. I'd happily go back to the old experiences.

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