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Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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Post by giardini »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #139
Aurornis wrote: post #97

Going deep on biomarkers, blood tests, and debates about optimal levels is okay for some people who derive motivation from obsessing over topics, but I’m starting to notice a trend where people obsess about these things for a couple years before burning out and moving on to the next topic. The best thing you can do for yourself is to establish healthy diet and lifestyle habits that are sustainable. A lot of people wh…

I learnt a great trick about exercise: find a podcast or audio book that you really enjoy listening to. Here's the trick: you're only allowed to listen when you're exercising. Also with food and drink: place friction between the treat and yourself. The easiest example is to not have biscuits / alcohol in the house. Bonus tip: alcohol free beer is really good these days.

Fiere-lmsaho says>Bonus tip: alcohol free beer is really good these days.

Could you recommendation some good alcohol-free beers, please?!

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Post by giardini »

tgv wrote: post #77
dust42 wrote: post #63

Long story short care about your health. If you don't do already, maybe now is a good time to start. What you put into your body: no processed food, cook yourself, lots of variety of veggies and fruits, little meat, little alcohol. What you do with your body: regular exercise, low stress, enough sleep. What you do with your mind: good social environment, good relationships. And an apple a day keeps the doctor away!

Not all things labeled "processed foods" are bad, it seems. There are enough scientists that say the distinction is often hypocritical (example from an article: a factory-made carrot cake is labeled UPF, but a home-baked one isn't, even though they're practically the same thing). Sugar, fats, and lack of fiber make factory-food unhealthy, they say. Others add that we can't feed the growing metropolitan areas without…

I dunno! My favorite carrot cake recipe had a full cup of vegetable oil in it! I'm not sure that fits into anyone's guidelines.

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Post by fcpk »

zoeysmithe wrote: post #75
zamiang_brennan wrote: post #54

Great post but quite surprised there is no mention of cutting red meat. There is a lot of evidence that especially the American diet is dangerously high in red meat to the point of elevating Heart Disease risk.

Also processed red meats or processed meats in general. Processed meats are the ones strongly linked with heart disease. At least for those who dont want to go vegetarian. Processed meats are so bad, they should be eliminated entirely from everyone's diet. The World Health Organization has classified processed meat as a Group 1 carcinogen. No amount of it is considered safe. Unprocessed read meat is still a problem a…

these are extremely outdated recommendations that make no sense. most of the basis for those are studies that took direct correlation as causality. the problem is a crappy lifestyle which incidentally typically includes processed and red meats in large quantities in the western world. saturated fats are hardly a good indicator of anything when you disassociate them from the lifestyle and foods they come with for most people. blue zones are now finally coming out as simply just the places where records sucked. there are plenty of populations with centenarians that had meat rich diets.

yes obesity is bad, as the source enemy of most diseases that kill and are not cancer is inflammation. find a diet that makes you not obese and have low inflammation, that is vastly superior to "Mediterranean diet" or "plant diet" for everyone.

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Post by ambicapter »

> Even while working with incredible infectious disease doctors, I still had to fight and constantly remind people what the next steps were during our admission.

Can't help but feel this is a factor of the sleep deprivation that doctors seem to celebrate.

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Post by ericmcer »

Waterluvian wrote: post #155

I’m sensing a potentially significant misallocation of resources. My mental model is that there’s a hypothetical quantification of not just your time and money, but your anxiety, attention bandwidth, mental energy, etc. I think, in some ways, the trick is being able to short circuit the entire journey represented by this website in favour of some form of, “I’m 40. I should be more mindful of heart disease. I should a…

Seriously there is too much shit to worry about to micro manage each facet, unless your like a Bryan Johnson billionaire with a staff.

Beyond just heart disease & cancer taking you out entirely its: my eyesight is going, my hearing, every joint in my body could fail, my brain is slowing, etc.

There is just way too much shit to do anything other than be like: sleep, exercise, eat better and don't drink too much.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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Post by ericmcer »

adammarples wrote: post #195
Waterluvian wrote: post #155

I’m sensing a potentially significant misallocation of resources. My mental model is that there’s a hypothetical quantification of not just your time and money, but your anxiety, attention bandwidth, mental energy, etc. I think, in some ways, the trick is being able to short circuit the entire journey represented by this website in favour of some form of, “I’m 40. I should be more mindful of heart disease. I should a…

I think the article makes a valid point: stop worrying about 90% of the other stuff and focus on the thing that will almost certainly kill you - heart disease - for which there are easy diagnostic and preventative measures. I think they're arguing for a better allocation of resources, if anything.

Isn't the global population like 50% obese? What is your actual risk of dying from it if you are relatively in shape and in your 40s?

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

goblin89 wrote: post #233

It seems to be nearly impossible for me to advocate for myself at a place like a hospital. It might be easier to do this for someone else, but it seems narcissistic to assume I of all the patients is so special. If there’s nobody to advocate for me , clearly I’m not! Let’s say I try it anyway. I tend to be a slow rational thinker in real-time situations, especially under pressure. If I try to advocate for myself and…

That would be useful for me too, similar problem

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Post by VerminOctopus1 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #219

The author says this about smoking: > If you smoke, don’t. It’s going to kill you. And then this about alcohol: > I think it’s unreasonable to tell people not to drink alcohol if they like it. Why is it unreasonable to tell people not to drink alcohol, but reasonable to tell people to stop smoking? Shouldn't the smoking section also get a "at least make sure it’s really good tobacco that you enjoy and don’t smoke too…

The inconvenient truth that the vast majority of adults refuse to acknowledge is that there is no safe level of alcohol. Any drink is going to damage you, marginal though it may be. Unfortunately the healthiest thing you can do is simply never drink alcohol.

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

AstroBen wrote: post #202
Waterluvian wrote: post #155

I’m sensing a potentially significant misallocation of resources. My mental model is that there’s a hypothetical quantification of not just your time and money, but your anxiety, attention bandwidth, mental energy, etc. I think, in some ways, the trick is being able to short circuit the entire journey represented by this website in favour of some form of, “I’m 40. I should be more mindful of heart disease. I should a…

I think people should be mindful of it since they were 18 - it's something that progresses over decades. You can have a lot bigger impact making changes when you're young rather than at 40 But yeah I agree with your message. Focus on the big impact macro level things. Hyper-optimizing it is a waste of energy

If I'm not wrong, it takes 20 years to revert the damage of smoking. I don't think you need to care at 18, but the effects will be seen over the course of 20 years
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