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Post by keyringlight »

haunter wrote: post #17
gverrilla wrote: post #9

How viable is it to stay in Win10?

IoT LTSC is updated until 2032 https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows... I use it since 2021 on my gaming PC. Zero problems, it’s a trimmed down Win 10 with most of the bloatware removed Win 11 has a similar trimmed down LTSC version Just install it, MS doesn’t care about piracy

I think the challenge with 10 IoT LTSC isn't going to be the OS itself, but the software running on it. Lots of software uses chromium embedded, and in the case of win7 the day that extended support (+3 years) ended CEF also dropped support and required features only found on more recent windows releases, then as other software updated their CEF dependency they also dropped win7 support. It might not be a major thing, but there is a slow erosion that goes beyond whether the OS gets patches. If nothing else, if it's a machine that uses software that goes online it's a notice that you should investigate moving to something else eventually.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by sd9 »

vintermann wrote: post #186
sd9 wrote: post #77

In my domain (motorsports), almost all software is ancient 3rd party stuff only available as windows desktop apps. I’ve tried emulators but performance is abysmal for these apps. There are also all sorts of weird networking things that don’t work. And generally when you work with a new team which has a different tech stack, there just isn’t time within the context of a race weekend to faff. I’m unfortunately locked i…

Having once worked with maintaining an ancient 3rd party windows desktop app, I'm surprised you don't have problems with them on recent windows. I guarantee you the developers do. They must be truly heroic maintainers if none of those frustrations bleed through to you. A time will come when the easiest way to run these beasts is in a docker container running wine, and I don't think it will be long.

Plenty of frustrations pass along to me, but I am sure that the developers maintaining the software are also putting in a massive shift to make it all keep working. These companies are often quite small, or small underfunded teams within larger organisations, and I believe that they are doing a fantastic job working with what they have.

New features are few and far between, but that doesn't mean that they're not doing a good job. The current state of the industry is not a reflection of the developers working on it today, it's a decades long legacy.

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Post by abcd_f »

jonbiggums22 wrote: post #222
ivanmontillam wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were as resource-constrained as Mozilla is, you'd drop support for unsupported platforms anyway.

According to this they still support windows 7 through extended support channel: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7... Chrome dropped support two years ago or so.

"Firefox version 115 is the last supported Firefox version for users of Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1."

That's a version from over 2 years ago.

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Post by smallstepforman »

lelanthran wrote: post #178
baq wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> LibreOffice is an okay office suite writer, perhaps. calc, not even close - google sheets is unfortunately better in almost every way, and google sheets aren't great either.

> > LibreOffice is an okay office suite > writer, perhaps. calc, not even close For what I see 99% of people do in excel (make a table, then sort it and draw some charts), calc would support all their uses just fine. For those using it for actual accounting/financial stuff with equations in the cells, and custom macros, etc ... then no, calc won't be sufficient.

For scientific calculations with tables of data, I find LibreCalc better than Excel, so in my experience, Excel is the “good enough for simple tasks” tool, but LibreCalccis the tool when you actually do scientific big boy calculations.

The real issue is familiarity and importing, but if you start fresh, LibreCalc is better for me.

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Post by maglite77 »

Does anyone have links to "how-to's" for Linux in the enterprise? Password/MFA management, central app management, the equivalent of group policy, device management, etc.? IME, these are the areas in the enterprise where Windows "wins" with the IT teams, but it's been a long time since I've been close to the rollout side of the house. TIA

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

Brett_Riverboat wrote: post #206

For those who care at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10 CMD will open Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter. Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter. Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter. Next type “net use…

To play devil's advocate, I'm guessing if you can get users to type stuff they don't understand into cmd and regedit then you can do some pretty damaging stuff. I can see why google would be concerned about malicious versions of these videos being posted, and being difficult to differentiate quickly from ones with the legitimate instructions.

Or if those malicious videos were posted and reported, then I can see why a fairly dumb AI system would see the similar legitimate ones as the same thing. Probably a particularly bad scenario for automated moderation.

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Post by Levitz »

jasode wrote: post #38
breve wrote: post #2

The solution is to run Linux. KDE is a good desktop environment: https://kde.org/ 90% of Windows games run on Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45736925 LibreOffice is an okay office suite (good enough for my purposes): https://www.libreoffice.org/ GIMP is a good image editor: https://www.gimp.org/ VLC is a good media player: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

>The solution is to run Linux. The Linux answer is often repeated but unfortunately, some users depend on various Windows software that only runs properly on Windows. E.g. CAD/CAM, Quicken finance, sewing embroidery, etc can't run in a Linux WINE emulator nor QEMU/KVM virtual machine. And avoiding the WINE/KVM incompatibilities by switching to "Linux-native" software such as Gimp often means having less features and/…

Agree on all points. Basically, Windows could suck to any degree whatsoever right now, it still has enjoyed an hegemony for decades and the vast majority of the population considers it the default, it's not impossible for this to change, but it's definitely going to take time.

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Post by jacquesm »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #165
jacquesm wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's be realistic, accessibility — whether you like it or not — is an edge case. Spoken like a true techbro. This attitude is so incredibly destructive. Technology is how we mediate our lives, cutting a very large number of citizens out of that is simply wrong, even if 'the numbers just aren't there' (and they are!).

I have nothing to do with tech bros. Did I advocate for lack of accessibility features ? I just pointed out that in this context there are things far higher in the priority list. Especially given the fact that there are accessibility features, just not on par with windows. Do you seriously believe that improving accessibility would have a higher impact in Linux adoption than improving robustness and hardware compatib…

> Do you seriously believe that improving accessibility would have a higher impact in Linux adoption than improving robustness and hardware compatibility ?

Yes, absolutely. Linux is plenty robust and has lots of hardware that you can use today. The reasons people end up not using it are:

- Microsoft

- Lack of favorite application 'x' (see: Microsoft)

- Difficult to use (unfamiliarity plays a role here)

So yes, accessibility is a key factor, and not just for the people that have challenging bodies.

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Post by chkaloon »

Brett_Riverboat wrote: post #206

For those who care at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10 CMD will open Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter. Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter. Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter. Next type “net use…

LAN Manager legacy still hanging around after 40+(?) years

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Post by fukka42 »

Lendal wrote: post #141
jasode wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The solution is to run Linux. The Linux answer is often repeated but unfortunately, some users depend on various Windows software that only runs properly on Windows. E.g. CAD/CAM, Quicken finance, sewing embroidery, etc can't run in a Linux WINE emulator nor QEMU/KVM virtual machine. And avoiding the WINE/KVM incompatibilities by switching to "Linux-native" software such as Gimp often means having less features and/…

Manufacturing and automation is another big one. Think about a water plant that is air-gapped but needs computer automation software to run. These things are everywhere, in every town that has indoor plumbing and sewer. The specialized software that automates these plants only runs on Windows. It relies on industrial hardware and touchscreens that are designed for use in harsh outdoor environments. All of these types…

Can you explain why you think Linux needs the internet any more than windows does?

Are you perhaps not aware of the millions of embedded Linux installations that never see the internet?

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