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Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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Fun fact - in Switzerland the holes are not permitted. Bonus fact - Switzerland imports more cheese than it exports.

This is bullshit, Emmentaler has holes here as well. Source: am Swiss, live in Emmental

Okay, okay, Wikipedia was wrong about the regulation on the holes, then ;-). Go edit it!

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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You are looking at the wrong product. This one[0] does say "American cheese" as a single phrase. And the slices are not individually wrapped, as they don't need to be. [0] https://www.kraftheinz.com/kraft-deli-deluxe/products/000210...

Kraft Singles and their Velveeta equivalent are what is available abroad, not the Kraft Deli Deluxe. 40 percent of American households in 2019 bought Kraft Singles. You may not like it, but it is the public face of American cheese.

I might say the 60% that didn’t buy Kraft Singles might be the public face of American cheese considering it’s the larger number?

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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You missed my first sentence. If there are 9 million Swiss consumers who are potential customers and 40 million Americans who are, then it doesn't matter if the average Swiss is richer than the average American. Average and means have no significance in this matter. There are more Americans who can afford cheese from Switzerland than there are Swiss people.

Are there sufficiently many Americans shopping in any individual supermarket who are willing to pay for that cheese for it to be worth that supermarket stocking that cheese? Distribution to retailers is not a simple problem in the food industry.

I would suppose so. Supermarkets in both Europe and America have made gigantic improvements in just the last 7 years in variety and quality of products they offer. Most people haven't noticed since it's a constant and accumulating process, but you find much more stuff today in the supermarket than what you used to. And the reason is partly from greatly improved logistics and distribution.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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> Properly formed eyes are a mark of quality. Except when I asked someone who makes cheese in Switzerland, they told me almost the opposite (and mostly that they export the junk cheese to the US and keep the good stuff). As an aside, what are the odds this article was written by AI? It has that feel (minus random bolding and bullet points).

I presume you mean Emmental, the term "swiss cheese" doesn't exist or more precisely has no meaning, its like saying "american car" for example, what do you want to discuss with such a vague term. Switzerland produces up to 1000 varieties of cheese (still nothing compared to what France produces but its a tiny country comparatively), and literally 1 semi famous variety has holes. Its not what most Swiss folks buy mos…

> I presume you mean Emmental, the term "swiss cheese" doesn't exist or more precisely has no meaning, its like saying "american car" for example, what do you want to discuss with such a vague term.

Nonsense. Swiss cheese has a particular appearance and taste profile in the US.

If you tried to sell something as "Swiss cheese" that was bright yellow and solid, you'd be laughed at.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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The term "Swiss cheese" is a constant source of amusement for people from Europe... you know, like, there is only one type of cheese made in Switzerland...

There is more than one kind of cheese in America, but only one is called "American cheese" (and it isn't actually, legally cheese, BTW...).

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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And how would they know if my cheese has holes, given that there is a non-zero probability that a random cut over a piece of cheese goes through no holes at all? They would have to make so many cuts that the cheese becomes grated. And grated cheese most definitely doesn't have holes!

They know the density of holeless cheese, and can compare to the sample. If it's underweight it probably has holes?

Eureka!

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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Because the damn swiss folks really want to sell more cheese, without actually producing more cheese! So the proper way is to cut half the cheese out, say that holes are NECESSARY and IMPORTANT - and then sell twice as much as before. They are a genius people.

Like a White Castle burger!

No, White Castle profits are linearly related to BAC (blood alcohol content).

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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Kraft Singles and their Velveeta equivalent are what is available abroad, not the Kraft Deli Deluxe. 40 percent of American households in 2019 bought Kraft Singles. You may not like it, but it is the public face of American cheese.

I might say the 60% that didn’t buy Kraft Singles might be the public face of American cheese considering it’s the larger number?

There’s no data to suggest that actual fancier American cheese sells more than heavily marketed slices, especially since a huge chunk of the remaining population, and I would say most, is not consuming either “American cheese” or “American cheese product” with sodium citrate.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

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It's an observation, not a value judgement. Try finding a fresh loaf of bread in the average American suburb.

American suburbs tend to have excellent bread in middle class neighborhoods or higher. This isn't the 90s.

No they don't, lol

The garden variety baguettes in Spain that go for 50 cents are superior to $8 "gourmet, artisanal" bread in the US.

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