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Most engineers/scientists/tech people will just have to understand at a fundamental level that they are just not the target market for apple. That is the kind of thing that needs a strong vision from the top to provide.
The eternal optimism of the techie mind. I saw this coming when Asahi was launched. What they did was impressive but nobody is superhuman and inherently Apple is all about control. Linux will always be - at best - a third rate citizen.
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Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust
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I used to be in this camp until I tried and bought an M1 Macbook as my daily driver. I thought I was going to be Thinkpad/XPS w/ Linux until I die. I don't love MacOS but POSIX is mostly good enough for me and the hardware is so good that I'm willing to look past the shortfalls. Seriously I would love to switch back to a full-time Linux distro but I'm more interested in getting work done and having a stable & perform…
>Loosing a day of productivity fixing drivers and patching kernels gets old. You are talking like it was 1997. The typical linux users don't have to do that. Only those who buy unsupported devices on purpose for the challenge to make them work.
[1]: I’ve seen these issues on Dell (XPS 13), Thinkpads, and HP laptops
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Not a rugpull; monetization was at the top of the FAQ from the beginning. https://web.archive.org/web/20230331034854/https://docs.orbs...
Them saying “we’re going to pull the rug” in advance doesn’t make it not a rug pull, it just means you have advanced notice of the rug pull.
Otherwise you can still stick to free alternatives like colima which would be CLI only
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>Loosing a day of productivity fixing drivers and patching kernels gets old. You are talking like it was 1997. The typical linux users don't have to do that. Only those who buy unsupported devices on purpose for the challenge to make them work.
That’s just not true. Every coworker I know who use Linux[1] have occasional issues with webcams, mics, Slack notifications, whatever. It’s all fixable and this kind of inconvenience can be worth it when balanced with the perceived advantages, but saying driver issues are a thing of the past is just a lie. [1]: I’ve seen these issues on Dell (XPS 13), Thinkpads, and HP laptops
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So in other words you've got nothing? There is literally nothing in your links that backs up your claims. So conferences in every western country should also not invite Chinese or Japanese speakers because they hold similar views to DHH? I'm so over this exhausting need to feel self-righteous.
Hm? My claim is that they back Omarchy and DHH, I think my links back that up?
You're welcome to your opinion, and I have zero insight into whether DHH is a fascist or not, but by no means is that explicit support for fascism! It's not just exaggeration, it's actually a lie.
If you buy a machine from Framework you might indirectly support a project which is maintained by someone whose opinions you dislike.
If you buy a Lenovo machine you will contribute to the revenue of an authoritarian government that will use some of that money to perpetuate human rights abuses against its own citizens, and maybe the citizens of your own country too one day.
Which is the most moral choice here in your opinion?
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And what's the ETA for M5 support?
It's funny that this exact question is mentioned in marcan's "I'm leaving Asahi Linux" blogpost, haha. > And, of course, “When is M3/M4 support coming?” https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-l... It's just amusing to me that Linux users since the beginning of time have been working hard on ensuring the maintainers of their software get upset at them and quit working on their software. Over decade…
Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust
#247I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…
I wonder if you’ll find apples native contains support useful at all https://github.com/apple/container
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Hm? My claim is that they back Omarchy and DHH, I think my links back that up?
Your claim was that they explicitly support fascism. That doesn't seem to be the case at all. What you seem to mean instead is: They financially support a popular open source project called Omarchy, which is built by DHH, and you believe DHH to be a fascist. You're welcome to your opinion, and I have zero insight into whether DHH is a fascist or not, but by no means is that explicit support for fascism ! It's not jus…
Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust
#249i was using Asahi on my M1 laptop, it was great, but have since switched to UTM.app (from the app store, but available outside it too), and configured to use Apple Silicon Hypervisor rather than QEMU, and it's been excellent, on M2 series processors at least. UTM warns its wrapping of the Apple Silicon hypervisor is not perfectly tested, but it's perfectly great. (When configuring a new hypervisor-ed OS, i use a Fedo…
Asahi, while a heroic project, was always going to struggle long term and I wonder what kind of battery hit you take using it. I’d rather keep the vertical integration in the Mac ecosystem and just log into a vm that I full screen. Best of both worlds