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I bought one just to run Loopy Pro. It has never run anything but the app store, the system settings, and Loopy Pro. But I had the use case before I bought it. If not for that, I wouldn't own one.

Try Drambo, haha

Looks super interesting. I may give it a shot sometime. But I'm mostly interested in recording loops generated and sound-designed outside the box.

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My first computer had 48 KB, 6 GB are a lot when not juggling Electron processes.

Really? Are we going to compare development in what 1980 to today? I got my start programming on an Apple //e in 1986 in assembly and it had 128KB of RAM. 6GB is not plenty when you are expected to run an IDE and in the case of Android an emulator that is also emulating a phone with 4GB+ RAM. iOS development has never used an “emulator”, when you ran in the simulator even on x86 computers, it compiled your code to x8…

Modern software is absurdly bloated, no matter how you look at it. I started programming on an Apple II, but the first computer I ran anything approaching an "IDE" on was an Amiga 500 with 3 megs of RAM. (Lattice C!)

The only reason you can't run a full blown OS on an iPad is Apple doesn't want you to. It would eat into low-end Mac sales.

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Life's most precious resource is time. A newer device is often much faster at a person's current routines. Why would you want a fast device to do harder things? Fast alone is worth it.

because if they allowed you to boot linux/macos/windows and dock it to get a full desktop experience, it could replace laptops and even desktop PC for most people. It legit has the cpu power of a >2k$ gaming PC. For the average person buying the ipad pro, the ipad will be the fastest computer in the house, by a very very wide margin.

Not even an iPad, iPhone A series are as powerful laptops and can do just about everything users need to do - even gaming. A19 has over 20 billion transistors it's absurd. How restricted it is, is absurd as well. The most capable chip that has been constrained to tiny subset of potential applications and use cases.

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Try Drambo, haha

Looks super interesting. I may give it a shot sometime. But I'm mostly interested in recording loops generated and sound-designed outside the box.

Yeah, it's a different kind of… instrument.

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For the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I th…

I wouldn't call myself a hater, just disappointed. The hardware is incredibly powerful, but it's being held back but an OS that's locked down beyond reason. Maybe they just don't want to cannibalize Mac sales or something.

I thought that too until I turned on the window mode on the new iPadOS. Blech. I gave it a month; I really just didn't want it, even though I thought I did.

I would like a full screen shell that's got a reasonable unix variant underneath it. But I do find other uses for it.

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Really? Are we going to compare development in what 1980 to today? I got my start programming on an Apple //e in 1986 in assembly and it had 128KB of RAM. 6GB is not plenty when you are expected to run an IDE and in the case of Android an emulator that is also emulating a phone with 4GB+ RAM. iOS development has never used an “emulator”, when you ran in the simulator even on x86 computers, it compiled your code to x8…

Modern software is absurdly bloated, no matter how you look at it. I started programming on an Apple II, but the first computer I ran anything approaching an "IDE" on was an Amiga 500 with 3 megs of RAM. (Lattice C!) The only reason you can't run a full blown OS on an iPad is Apple doesn't want you to. It would eat into low-end Mac sales.

Did you run an IDE and a separate emulator/simulator for a completely different computer? The video memory of a modern computer is much more than 3MB of RAM.

Why wouldn’t Apple rather you spend more on an iPad Pro + keyboard than a MacBook Air?

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For the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I th…

My wife uses the previous gen iPad Pro 11 inch for all her computing. Yes, her use is lightweight, and she rarely uses the file system.

It think one of the points of popularity for the iPad is that it's the same (in most respects) as an iPhone, but bigger. The smartphone has become the default computing and communication device for billions of people. My wife can certainly use her iPhone, but she almost never does; the iPad fulfills that need for her. She plays Balatro, Simon's Cat, and Angry Birds, reads and writes email, reads, browses the web, watches video on her iPad.

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because if they allowed you to boot linux/macos/windows and dock it to get a full desktop experience, it could replace laptops and even desktop PC for most people. It legit has the cpu power of a >2k$ gaming PC. For the average person buying the ipad pro, the ipad will be the fastest computer in the house, by a very very wide margin.

Not even an iPad, iPhone A series are as powerful laptops and can do just about everything users need to do - even gaming. A19 has over 20 billion transistors it's absurd. How restricted it is, is absurd as well. The most capable chip that has been constrained to tiny subset of potential applications and use cases.

> The most capable chip that has been constrained to tiny subset of potential applications and use cases.

Having run Asahi Linux on an M1, it's obvious that a A and M chips were purpose built/designed together for the software Apple creates.

I have a 2018 MBP that dual boots to Windows. Everything from the color of the screen to the CPU performance is totally unrefined in Bootcamp on Windows compared to the macOS side. Same hardware. A lot of it comes down to how much effort is put into making the hardware and software work efficiently and well together.

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People keep saying their iPad is a YT consumption device, but without ad blocking, how do you stay sane? I'm assuming if you're consuming that much YT content you've moved to a premium account or something? I don't use my tablet primarily for YT content, so it's rather jolting when I click a link somewhere and see the hell that is unblocked YT

Even with YT Premium, sponsor announcements are still an annoyance. Firefox with SponsorBlock helps with that, not sure if that's usable on iPad.

It is not.

However, the YouTube Labs “Jump Ahead” feature is basically the same thing. When a sponsor segment starts, double tap the right side of your screen and a “jump ahead” button will usually appear (it’s algorithmic based on user viewing patterns). It skips the ad just about every time.

You’ll have to have Premium and enable this manually. And it might go away, it’s experimental.

But also, iSponsorBlockTV is a great project. But it only works on Apple TV and other streaming TV YouTube apps.

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I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

I bought iPad Pro M4 and I am yet to find a use case for it. Combined with non-secure cloud backup in the UK, I see it as a toy device. Watch YouTube, casually browse web (I am yet to install VPN). So far the most use I had with it was recording meetings, so that later I can relisten. If I was able to run Ubuntu on it or even macOs - that would have been a different story...

My cheap Samsung tablet can do all that with a low powered exonous chip, and when it gets Android 16 it will be able to run a Linux VM.

I don't know why Apple is putting full M series chips in their iPads but limit the software they can run. Either open it up to desktop apps or just put a cheaper A series chip in them.

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