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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by astura »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #59
IlikeKitties wrote: post #52

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And that's why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved in this prosecution and prosecutions like it. If the case is as described here, there should be jail time involved for kidnapping and false imprisonment. But any justice system always protects their own.

> why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved Do we have names of the arresting officers, prosecutors and judge this is in front of? With that we can determine who above them is elected.

>With that we can determine who above them is elected

"This country is for people like me, I want people not like me punished severely" is very much a mainstream opinion in the US. This is how people win elections, not lose them.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by _heimdall »

ryandrake wrote: post #238
_heimdall wrote: post #237

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> I'm guessing that you have the means to pay your bills for years before having to worry about losing your income and your home. Most folks don't. That's a pretty big assumption that also happens to be wrong. I specifically said "if at all possible" because I'm well aware that plenty of people can't put everything on hold for 30-60 days and have to potentially start over after that's done. If someone can in any way…

I don't know anyone except the retired, who can afford to put everything on hold for 30-60 days (which in most cases will mean losing one's job). A small number of us have the savings to do that.

Do you mean that literally? You know noone less than 30-60 days of bankruptcy or ruin?

The fact that many, if not most, people are that close is the problem. We shouldn't be days or weeks away from ruin, and should the time come that one has to stand for their rights into the court of law they should be able to afford that fight on the order of a month or two. How can we keep our government in check if we can't afford to fight it for more than a few weeks?

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by canjobear »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #148
card_zero wrote: post #97

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I noticed the increase over time too. In the 1920s, the era of Al Capone and friends shooting up restaurants with submachine guns, there were 10 incidents of school shootings. What's up with that? I guess the population was smaller ... was it 26 times smaller than the 2010s (259 incidents)? I checked, and in fact the difference is about a factor of 3, not 26.

The largest school massacre in US history[0] happened in the 1920s. It was accomplished with high explosives. There were several school bombings in the 1950s too but few shootings. For whatever reason, school shootings displaced school bombings in recent decades. It has been a long time since there has been a major school bombing. Bombings were the popular mode of creating mass casualties 50+ years ago even though ac…

Interestingly Columbine was also supposed to be a bombing, but it didn't work. I guess that was the tipping point.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by zzzeek »

mindslight wrote: post #204
Bratmon wrote: post #100

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This is a distinction without a difference. "Regressive", "reactionary", and "conservative" are three words that refer to the exact same people and mean the exact same thing.

No, the words mean different things. When used to refer to a group, those meanings confer connotations. The point is that we need to stop referring to people destroying our society as "conservative".

why do we need to do that? Which of the two political parties in the US is known as "conservative"? What does that party look like now? What policies are being pursued by that party's elected officials, and how much do they differ in concept from what that same party was doing ten years ago, twenty years ago, fifty years ago? The Southern Strategy, Reagan's speech at Neshoba county fair, "Starve the Beast", "Brownie you're doing a heckuva job", you can draw a straight line all the way through to today.

we're living in the utter pinnacle of unfettered conservatism today.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by somenameforme »

crtasm wrote: post #185
somenameforme wrote: post #105

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Without context, it seems like somebody obviously just sharing some tasteless memes, but the context is precisely what makes things not so clear. This is a former police officer (in other words: armed) who was obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist, lived near a Perry High School, and then posts an image that shows Trump saying "We have to get over it." with the subtext being "Donald Trump, on the Perry Hig…

Where did you find this context? in particular >obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist

Normal people don't post 'memes' with images of dying people in them. If you don't understand this imagine a 'meme' that showed that terrifying image of the dying Iryna Zarutska in it, murderer right behind her, and posted some edgelord caption below it. You only do this sort of stuff if you're completely screwed in the head, generally caused by political extremism.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by tastyface »

nailer wrote: post #245
estearum wrote: post #216

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Are cockroaches (the insect) evil?

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The core of Christian theology is that all humans are sinners, yet capable of change and salvation. Dehumanizing criminals by calling them vermin is about as antithetical to Christianity as you can get. It is the language of hatred and fear, not humanistic love.

A Christian who calls his fellow humans cockroaches is wearing religion like a shirt.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by tastyface »

nailer wrote: post #212
estearum wrote: post #209

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We use names for things to categorize them. We categorize things to inform how to treat them. I think we should treat criminals differently from how we treat cockroaches, so we should use different names for them. There's only one functional reason to refer to humans as cockroaches which is to dehumanize them. Dehumanizing humans is bad.

It’s a moral imperative to call out evil. It’s a gross inversion to pretend otherwise.

OK. Your call to dehumanization is evil.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by eth0up »

daseiner1 wrote: post #221
eth0up wrote: post #87

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Even when it isn't? Edit: what your type tends to be highly obtuse to, is the impending reality of blowback, where your warping of law is turned upon you. But it feels so good now, it must be worth it. Abuse of power has serious consequences.

"my type". based on what, exactly? i don't like this administration — at all — and I believe we're definitionally in a fascist state now. the lives of many of my friends & family have been devastated by drugs. 80k+ americans die every year from overdose. i understand why you may disagree with me with and i'm not going to dismiss your concerns out-of-hand but multinational illegal drug enterprises are absolutely an as…

Sometimes time clarifies some things. I think I should have either mentioned or only mentioned the following:

The heavyhanded, cavalier fancies of this administration may seem fun and well deserved. Whether or not, they set a precedent as they go. I can't predict, but it seems probable that the next administration will turn left. If it does, it will have amassed excuses along with a well rehearsed methodology of spending them. The divisive shitstick of now will become the polar end of the divisive shitstick of tomorrow.

The notion that this shit can be gotten away with is ludicrous. Every breach of integrity that occurs with the present regime sets a citable example for the next to exploit. Anyone not eating ambian by the ton is aware of the unprecedented levels of tension and hostility between the right and left. It's simply predictable what will happen.

We'd be wise to arrange for a slightly smoother transition. Brazen disregard for law will not help. And any attempt to justify it with dubious ideology will come with a serious hangover.

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