that's a bit rich from google to not support the essential protocol of email
Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP
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#242Somewhat related. What do people use to keep an offline backup of Gmail, and other mail accounts? Do you need to keep a full download of your mailbox, or is there some way to get an incremental dump (i.e. just things that changed since X)
An e-mail client? At least that's how I do it, and it's been working well for decades.
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#243Yeah. Gmail is an anti-pattern. I was paying $10/month for workplace and a couple days ago they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP. Fortunately, I own the domain so I pointed it at amazon. I pretty much only use google apps to share docs I've written elsewhere, so I didn't really lose too much when I lost access to apps. It would be much cooler if there were a human I could talk to to find out what…
> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.
Ha, no way man. I've been trying to get YouTube/Google to reactivate my YouTube account for 14 years which has all my daughters baby videos (then a 2 year old). They shut it down due to some vague copyright violation which they still can't explain to me, and haven't activated it despite about 20 support tickets being filed. And I'm a paying customer.
BTW, if anyone works for Google here and can help me to get it back I'll pay you $100.
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#244Thanks for mentioning Google Takeout - was not aware of that service and found it very useful
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Last I checked, Proton Mail does not support standard email client protocols. So you’re stuck with its apps and a browser interface or with buying a paid subscription and using a bridge software on desktop to use a client like Thunderbird. Getting mails out of Proton Mail is also not as easy as setting up a client with IMAP or using other tools like imapsync.
The point is that Google is harming paying customers, and as a paying customer Proton respects me more and it is based in Europe, which is a big plus for me.
> Looks like Google wants to force people to use the WebUI instead of email clients (no google ads on IMAP/POP).
I think that’s a valid criticism, but Protonmail also doesn’t allow people to use a standard email client. I agree with the parent commenter that it’s strange that you’re suggesting it as an alternative, especially when there’s services like Fastmail and Purelymail that both have accessible human support and let you use a standard email client.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.
Raises hand for another n=1 that I'm currently going through. My point being, it doesn't matter than you can get hold of someone because the bureaucracy is kafkaesque. WTF has happened to Google? We're a supplier being onboarded. We've been in on-boarding hell for about 2 months now. We've completed the job and are still being passed around teams in order to get paid. As an aside, one of the scourges of modern busine…
Most places I know of seem to use Microsoft 360 for "cloud office productivity apps" vs. Google Workspace. The exception being schools which tend to use Google (maybe because they often buy cheap Chromebooks for the kids?).
IDK if Microsoft is better with onboarding or support but I'd be inclined to assume that given their longer history with Office and business customers.
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#247Oh no, I have to go and setup my family's emails again. We have a domain and I used to forward to some gmail accounts (few don't want to use multiple email programs/accounts), but so much mail got lost (not even in spam folder) that I just had to switch everyone to pop3 fetch to gmail.com. Now at least email get's there, even if it's 30-60mins late (really annoying for logins/verifications/etc.). Maybe it's time to s…
Migadu.
Migadu.
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#248I finally figured out the confusion here. What a terribly worded article. Could mean two different things: 1) Some kind of third-party account (whatever that is) can no longer check (fetch) emails from Gmail via POP. I have a test suite that uses POP to fetch emails from Gmail, so this concerns me. 2) Gmail itself can no longer fetch emails from other email accounts over POP (a feature I had no idea existed). I guess…
I‘m using this feature, and I‘ve understood the article right away. Yes it’s #2, a little known but very useful feature that I have no idea how I‘ll replace.
I just had to check how I've set up my Gmail to collect all my e-mail from other accounts.
Fortunately, they're all set up to forward to Gmail. Gmail never checks them itself.
Does e-mail forwarding not work in your case?
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.
Raises hand for another n=1 that I'm currently going through. My point being, it doesn't matter than you can get hold of someone because the bureaucracy is kafkaesque. WTF has happened to Google? We're a supplier being onboarded. We've been in on-boarding hell for about 2 months now. We've completed the job and are still being passed around teams in order to get paid. As an aside, one of the scourges of modern busine…
I don't think anything happened regarding customer support. Culturally, Google on the non-ads products was always "we have a billion users, it's free, we're super smart and invented SRE, so we don't care about support." Enterprise tries harder but has that baggage.
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#250It's amusing to me that big friendly Google that started out giving massive amounts of storage away for free (effectively unlimited at the time) has been on a kick to roll that back.