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Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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You can use the most powerful LEAP engine on a lightened 757 “neo”, it’ll just be a complete dog like the A321 and not a rocket ship like the old one.

Just ‘cause I’m totally ignorant about this stuff: why is that?

The A321 is an elongated/bigger version of the A320. Similarly to the B737 - which also went through this process a few times (e.g. compare the B737-400 vs B737-600 vs B737-MAX) - it means the engines are moving a heavier&bigger plane.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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How does such a tariff even work? Can't an airline finance all of its aircraft through an entity in the Maldives or whatever?

Airbus had to move production from Quebec to Georgia (US)

It wasn't Airbus yet, so more like: Bombardier had to sale a controlling stake to Airbus to gain access to its Georgia production facilities.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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It'll be interesting to see if they still can design and build a new ground-up airplane design. The last all-new design was the 787, initiated in 2003 and launched in 2009, and its design was fraught with problems. Before then was the 777 in the early 90s (pre-McDonnell takeover), and the 757/767 in the early 80s. There's a phenomena that ofter occurs with large organizations where once their markets mature, everybod…

> with large organizations where once their markets mature, everybody who can build a product end-to-end leaves or gets forced out, leaving only people with highly specialized maintenance skillsets It's not just building a product end-to-end. Tim Cook is a supply-chain guy. He knows how to build a product. What he doesn't know how is how to design a new one. This is the reason that all of the "new" stuff that has com…

There is no hint that Apple intends to do anything with the Vision Pro

Grab one when they go on sale, and keep it in the box for a couple of decades.

Have you seen what Lisas go for at auction these days?

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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I worked on the 787 but far from the engineering team. Boeing vowed to never build a plane like that again. They gave the wing design away to Mitsubishi for fucks sake. You never do that. They were neck deep in the McDonnell Douglas metastasis at the time, and doing an impression of Captain Ahab in trying to union bust in Seattle by fucking off to South Carolina. Boeing customers would figure out which plane numbers…

> They gave the wing design away to Mitsubishi for fucks sake. You never do that. They were neck deep in the McDonnell Douglas metastasis at the time The 787 was a straight up MDD pants-on-head plan (pushed by Stonecipher and McDonnel themselves), the entire point was to shift the costs of design and development to suppliers, with the idea that they'd fund the aircraft you could sell.

Nothing really exceptional about that, risk-sharing projects were common in aerospace in the 80s onwards. 21% of the 777 ( yes the beloved Triple Seven ) was farmed out to a Japanese consortium which took risk for the design and production of the fuselage.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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It'll be interesting to see if they still can design and build a new ground-up airplane design. The last all-new design was the 787, initiated in 2003 and launched in 2009, and its design was fraught with problems. Before then was the 777 in the early 90s (pre-McDonnell takeover), and the 757/767 in the early 80s. There's a phenomena that ofter occurs with large organizations where once their markets mature, everybod…

> with large organizations where once their markets mature, everybody who can build a product end-to-end leaves or gets forced out, leaving only people with highly specialized maintenance skillsets It's not just building a product end-to-end. Tim Cook is a supply-chain guy. He knows how to build a product. What he doesn't know how is how to design a new one. This is the reason that all of the "new" stuff that has com…

> The only thing I can think of that Apple has done in the Cook era that was actually new was the Apple Vision Pro.

AirPods and the Apple Watch are also major new product lines, by some accounts each alone bigger than many major technology firms, that were released in the Tim Cook era of Apple.

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What about Airpods? Also, I expect Vision to eventually be a massive success.

The basic Airpods are crap, noise cancellation is useless, they fall off the ear. You're better off with Sony or JBL at half the price. The Pro ones are good.

I got the pros. I think they are great in every way except (1) they fall out of my ears, but that’s cause I’ve got a genetic polymorphism that makes me make crazy amounts of earwax and my doctor warned me that one of these days I’m gonna wake up and not be able to hear cause my ears are clogged —- I don’t wear them outside, I just wear them where having them fall out is not a problem, (2) the noise cancellation is supposed to turn itself off when I talk to somebody and it seems like they always turn it off whenever I mutter to myself, but when I actually talk to somebody, they don’t, and (3) young people these days walk around with AirPods in and they just can’t hear you. It’s just like they’re 95 years old.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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> with large organizations where once their markets mature, everybody who can build a product end-to-end leaves or gets forced out, leaving only people with highly specialized maintenance skillsets It's not just building a product end-to-end. Tim Cook is a supply-chain guy. He knows how to build a product. What he doesn't know how is how to design a new one. This is the reason that all of the "new" stuff that has com…

There is no hint that Apple intends to do anything with the Vision Pro Grab one when they go on sale, and keep it in the box for a couple of decades. Have you seen what Lisas go for at auction these days?

Have you seen what they went for when they were new?

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post #143

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Pretty much. You can outfit pretty much any airframe you want to be business class only seating but not enough people will buy when it pops up on Expedia at 2+ times the price of the alternative. I don't love Economy on long flights either but I'm mostly not willing to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket for a more comfortable alternative for 8 hours or so.

There is a business-class only airline (La Compagnie) that flies from Newark to Europe and they're profitable. A little more expensive than 2x the price though, but less than 10x. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Compagnie

Never heard of this airline so I just checked: Over the next few months the cheapest flight from EWR to their base in Orly is ~$2,500 vs ~$365 for Economy (French Bee to be exact). That seems like its still a separate class and would exclude most Economy flyers.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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What about the Apple watch?

What about it? I'm not going to recharge my watch every night. Yawn.

I don't personally sleep with my watch on, so I just charge it every night. But it actually only takes about 15 mins to charge a decent amount, so if I did I'd just charge it while I was in the shower...

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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To add to this & the Jobs interview - an oil industry proverb: a healthy oil company has a geologist in charge, a mature one has an engineer in charge, a declining one has an accountant in charge, and a dying one has a lawyer in charge.

A bit ironic though because the CEO of Boing during their best years was William McPherson Allen, a lawyer.

There are always people who work out despite common sense saying they shouldn't that doesn't mean common sense is wrong, it just means we don't understand what the real factors are.
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