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Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by SteveJS »

tptacek wrote: post #223
SteveJS wrote: post #209

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I zoomed out. It looks like this: "Usage has absolutely declined from peak switching periods where inevitibly some users won't stick around, but that's to be expected" That just isn't a "sharp decline" no matter how much you seem to want to repeat those words.

Last year in November they had around 2.7MM likers. Today it's 1.2MM. Last year in November they had around 1.3MM posters. Today, 0.65MM. Followers: 3MM, to 0.4MM today.

Those are Jaz’s daily unique action counts (flows) from the Bluesky firehose; they’re anchored to the Nov ’24 spike, so the ‘decline’ is post-surge reversion. Meanwhile the user stock kept rising (~39M).

A presidential election spike is the baseline for tracking growth in a social media platform??

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by immibis »

tptacek wrote: post #223
SteveJS wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I zoomed out. It looks like this: "Usage has absolutely declined from peak switching periods where inevitibly some users won't stick around, but that's to be expected" That just isn't a "sharp decline" no matter how much you seem to want to repeat those words.

Last year in November they had around 2.7MM likers. Today it's 1.2MM. Last year in November they had around 1.3MM posters. Today, 0.65MM. Followers: 3MM, to 0.4MM today.

Last year in November, the co-president just banned a bunch of guys from X for not liking him.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by immibis »

nocoolnametom wrote: post #221
packetlost wrote: post #162

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I've found Bluesky does a really bad job at not showing me stuff I don't want to see. Furry p*rn on the "cute internet cats" feed? Yup. Heaps and heaps of political rage bait on the main discover feed? Yup. I wanted to like BlueSky, but it's such a bizarre echo chamber of people who left Twitter for ideological reasons that it basically filters for people that I actively don't want to engage with. Those types of peop…

You've got three tools, mutes, blocks, and lists. Yeah, there's no centralized algorithm that does it for you, it'll take a couple days of actual effort, but it's extremely easy to prune your main feed into looking how you want it to look. Which is pretty much like how it was to use Twitter a few years ago before everything got algorithmed.

Bluesky is centralized, despite the constant protests that it isn't. https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by lmf4lol »

AndroTux wrote: post #135
falcor84 wrote: post #121

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On a side note, I still can't get used to how wanting to restrict access to guns is considered a "liberal" stance.

The freedom to not have to fear death when going to school comes to mind. You know, like everywhere else in the western world.

Well, in Europe you get stabbed. Or hit deliberately by a car. Or just thrown before an incoming train. Shit happens everywhere... what's the difference? And we also have school shootings in Europe. Less than USA, granted! But they exist.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by JimDabell »

sumeno wrote: post #236
tptacek wrote: post #218

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They're not his numbers . He's just pointing to them!

You didn't point to his numbers so that wasn't clear, but either way, Silver has beef with bsky because he isn't popular there and he likes to whine about it. The usage numbers I've seen are down from their peak last November but have mostly stabilized at this point. The devs say they have multiple years of runway, and each time there is an exodus from twitter the numbers have a sharp increase and then decline to a s…

> You didn't point to his numbers

They were linked in the thread by the person complaining about them in an ancestor of your comment.

> if there's one thing you can count on it's Elon doing something stupid to piss off users and cause another user exodus. That one will cause another peak and slow decline but if it's like every other one he's caused the end result will be higher numbers for bsky than before.

Only seeing growth when Musk does something stupid, and most of the new users not sticking around are strong signals it doesn’t have long-term value. Bluesky is the rebound social network.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by sumeno »

Larrikin wrote: post #199
tptacek wrote: post #173

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Yeah, I think what you needed to do here is zoom out. That's a sharply declining chart. I understand that as a Bluesky user the peak and dropoff doesn't hurt the experience. But investors are going to put money in with the expectation of a return and what they're going to look at are the derivatives of the adoption curve: how quickly is it gaining users, and is adoption accelerating?

Why does anyone need to invest at all? Why can't Jack Dorsey just run it instead of needing it be a hockey stick start up?

Jack Dorsey is in no way involved with bsky today. In fact he hates it

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by Sammi »

verteu wrote: post #191
labrador wrote: post #128

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Agreed. Who in good conscience would use a site where the owner regularly posts hateful, trivially-debunked BS? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1970336290148434391 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1969087195798475263 https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1971546061169987846

Everyone who reads a Rubert Murdoch tabloid.

I am constantly surprised by the amount of people who enjoy drivel, but this has always been like this. Only we used to also have printed media that held itself to higher ideals than tabloids and worked as a counter weight to them. What is different atm is that for a long time there haven't been social media that shoot for higher ideals. Maybe bsky is that?

The market for tabloid social media is already saturated by meta, tiktok, x, snapchat, and the like. It would be interesting if bsky could find their own market with the more "serious" end of the media spectrum.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by rootusrootus »

tptacek wrote: post #223
SteveJS wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I zoomed out. It looks like this: "Usage has absolutely declined from peak switching periods where inevitibly some users won't stick around, but that's to be expected" That just isn't a "sharp decline" no matter how much you seem to want to repeat those words.

Last year in November they had around 2.7MM likers. Today it's 1.2MM. Last year in November they had around 1.3MM posters. Today, 0.65MM. Followers: 3MM, to 0.4MM today.

To be fair, also last year in November they had 850K likers, 500K posters, and 400K followers.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Post by sumeno »

tptacek wrote: post #223
SteveJS wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I zoomed out. It looks like this: "Usage has absolutely declined from peak switching periods where inevitibly some users won't stick around, but that's to be expected" That just isn't a "sharp decline" no matter how much you seem to want to repeat those words.

Last year in November they had around 2.7MM likers. Today it's 1.2MM. Last year in November they had around 1.3MM posters. Today, 0.65MM. Followers: 3MM, to 0.4MM today.

Last year in August they had 200k likers. Today it's 1.2MM.

Last year in August they had 150k posters. Today they have 650k.

Followers: 50k to 400k today

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