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Re: Helium Browser

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Post by RoryH »

pjmlp wrote: post #150
godelski wrote: post #124

> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…

Yeah, everyone is doing their little contribution to help Google take over the Web and turn it into ChromeOS Platform. Why did we ever bothered with the IE lawsuit, for a newer generation to give the Web on a plate to Google?

It was also a time before Google demoted "Don't be evil." from their company literature.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by Hendrikto »

jamienicol wrote: post #207
httpsoverdns wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently purchased Firefox relay because I thought it was a nifty service to start using to prevent spam and preserve my privacy, but also a driving factor in my purchase was giving money to Mozilla. I didn't really look into it beyond that internal thought process. Your comment made me wonder, are things so segmented at Mozilla that supporting something like relay doesn't actually help Firefox in general?

I’m a Mozilla employee who works on Firefox, so I’ll try to answer this to the best of my knowledge but as a disclaimer I can’t guarantee I’m 100% correct Paying for relay will give money to Mozilla Corporation, the same pot the google money goes into, which will predominantly pay for Firefox development but also other products. The corporation’s profits also fund the non-profit Foundation’s activities. People often…

The problem many people have with donating to the Mozilla Foundation us them squandering enormous amounts of it. Mostly on things nobody asked for and executive pay.

Personally, I don’t feel like firing Firefox devs and starting controversial and expensive diversity campaigns while raising executive pay when Firefox is losing market share every year is being a great steward.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by godelski »

httpsoverdns wrote: post #169
john01dav wrote: post #159

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You can't donate to Firefox. You can donate to Mozilla, but that money doesn't go to Firefox.

I recently purchased Firefox relay because I thought it was a nifty service to start using to prevent spam and preserve my privacy, but also a driving factor in my purchase was giving money to Mozilla. I didn't really look into it beyond that internal thought process. Your comment made me wonder, are things so segmented at Mozilla that supporting something like relay doesn't actually help Firefox in general?

People have a lot of weird excuses for disliking Mozilla. There are definitely legitimate ones, but the point really is "what's the alternative"? Are the faults of Mozilla really so much worse that we'll turn to Google instead? Honestly, that seems silly to me.

Can we just for once not blindly hate something for not being perfect and consequently strengthening an even worse option?

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by balamatom »

andruby wrote: post #219
jeroenhd wrote: post #212

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> the controversial person behind Did I miss a controversy somewhere?

The "controversy" is probably referring to this: https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5823666/ladybird-web-browser...

>That statement reads, in full, "This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected."

Yeah well tell me how a Web browser in the 2020s is not an ideological device. I'll wait.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by vovavili »

WalterBright wrote: post #158

It's about time programmers stopped naming products and languages after elements and chemicals. Haven't we had enough of that? We should name languages only after letters. After all, 26 languages should be enough for anybody.

It's actually deliberately clever wordplay. Helium is light, chromium is heavy. Their browser is a set of patches to Chromium.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by [deleted] »

andriesm wrote: post #240
johnisgood wrote: post #221

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I remember the times, too, when the person behind the code did not matter. The code did.

I had to google the controversy, found one dedicated blog site page about it, read it thoroughly and think it is insane to call this dude controversial based on what I read on https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity... I'm tired of people who are doing such great work being labeled politically over things like pronoun preferences and somehow this is supposed to make us wish for the projects failu…

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Re: Helium Browser

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Post by whatarethembits » 

  > We'll keep support for MV2 extensions for as long as possible
I can maybe overlook it being based on chromium, but I don't want to migrate to a new browser and have to migrate again when uBlock Origin stops working eventually.

Zen browser is my home currently, I think Arc has broken my ability to move back to traditional tab management.

Re: Helium Browser

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Post by balamatom »

typpilol wrote: post #192
BatteryMountain wrote: post #176

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Literally the first thing I looked for...(if it is based on chromium). When can we get a new kind of browser that doesn't use html/css/js...? Build one from scratch with a common design language (but modifiable by the user)

That would be a monumental task probably requiring tens of millions to be honest

Tens of millions? That'd be just the palm-greasing before you are allowed to begin!
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