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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Possible but a simple software update can also do the trick. That's just a fact and the reason why no one should trust a democracy based on voting machines. Experts have been warning against voting machines for decades.
Do all the jurisdictions use the same software? It would surprise me if we are at that level of centralization, plus no discrepancies appeared between audited paper ballots and the software counts?
Why "all jurisdictions"? That's a strawman. You only need to target a few districts in swing states to secure a victory.
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#243UK around Brexit time thought kind of similar: let's keep the "riffraff" immigrants out by applying higher criteria. The narrative also changed this way: we don't want immigrants in general, but you , with your highly paid PhD-requiring job, you can go in, on a 2 year rolling basis. Then everyone's a winner, except for unwanted, unskilled labour. But a lot of skilled labour left anyway. Partly because the general atm…
> you can be pretty sure your retired parents won't, if ever you need them to move in with you The immigration system should be designed to block retired parents from moving country to live with their working age adult children who have migrated. One reason to have immigration is to improve a country's dependency ratio: the ratio of working age population to children and retirees. The ideal immigrants are young well-…
Your ideal immigrants are young parents with healthy children, who are apparently willing to abandon their own parents? And somehow this is a good thing?
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#244https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/rest... :
> … the effective date of this proclamation, which shall be 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on September 21, 2025.
That doesn’t leave much time. I would have expected that current visa holders wouldn’t fall under this rule. Shouldn’t it be a legal standard not to apply new rules retroactively?
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#245UK around Brexit time thought kind of similar: let's keep the "riffraff" immigrants out by applying higher criteria. The narrative also changed this way: we don't want immigrants in general, but you , with your highly paid PhD-requiring job, you can go in, on a 2 year rolling basis. Then everyone's a winner, except for unwanted, unskilled labour. But a lot of skilled labour left anyway. Partly because the general atm…
Polling in the US has swung in favor of immigration:
> a record-high 79% of U.S. adults say immigration is a good thing for the country.
It’s hard to separate what’s supported by the public and what are random hobby horses of the far right once they get in power.
Because the US has historically been relatively more positive to immigration I am skeptical that we would see the same reaction as in the UK or other countries in the long run (in the short term, it’s all a sht show)
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigratio...
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#246Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
It should be the most obvious thing in the world that whether you take a fundamentally welcoming and positive mindset towards people vs. a negative and unwelcoming mindset, the effects of either will propagate and magnify themselves over time. But when you're insecure the feelings you get from the latter are more comforting in the short term.
The principle is better stated as "don't be an asshole". HN's insistence on decorum is just really poorly suited to the moment.
I can assure you the decorum isn’t exactly being maintained and downvotes don’t exactly do much when there’s a consensus that a certain thing is okay to do.
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#248Bet all those tech lords are happy they went to the White House to stroke big Don and tell him how smart he is.
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#249It was nighttime in Singapore when the ruling was announced. My husband and I scrambled to find a flight back. The best we could find, at any price, lands 25mins after the deadline. We are on our way there.
I feel for you. I just wonder, at this point why would someone look to go back to the US "At any price", given how bad are they being treated? From what I can see, it seems most of us non-US people are "persona non grata" in the US. I myself am and live in a so called "shithole country ". But specially because of my Technical skills, I've got plenty of opportunities over here. I would never think on living in the USA…
That's an increasing consideration for people thinking about moving to the US or those who aren't settled there yet. But, of course, people who already have family and belongings there will want to get back in to at least sort those things out before leaving for good.
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#25015 hours when they know the quickest flights back are 16+ hours. Criminal.