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Post by throwawaygmbno »

luckys wrote: post #135
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #116

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>This is a fine social contract for the independent blogger just sharing their thoughts on the Internet and maybe hoping to get a few dollars for their server cost. The trouble is the ad-blockers will block their ads as well. Visit somewhere like John Gruber's Daring Fireball site which has the least offensive ad placement possible yet his adverts are still blocked.

With Ublock Origin at least, you can whitelist websites that you want to see ads on.

With Ad Nauseum, the extension destroys your ad profile by clicking on all or nearly all of the blocked ads. The only people that lose anything are the companies.

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Post by jwr »

I love it. But in the spirit of today's Internet, you should make this message an obnoxious pop-up that requires dismissal with a tiny "X" button that is dark-grey-on-black and placed tactically so as to be the least accessible. The touch target on touch devices should be tiny and slightly off. The pop-up should also fail completely on iPads, covering all the content with a dark overlay but giving the user no way to proceed.

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Post by connicpu »

mauvehaus wrote: post #220
rancidcrab wrote: post #216

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But those are ok. They (usually) don't have sound, auto playing videos, shock content or cover something I want to look at.

Have you filled a car with gas any time in the last ~5 years? The pumps around here (New England, USA) start playing ads with sound once you start pumping fuel. It's an absolute delight when your pump and the pump on the other side of your island are playing different ads with different audio or the same ad with the audio just out of sync. Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a…

Pumping gas became pretty infrequent for me once I got a plug in hybrid, but when the closest gas station near me first started playing an ad my immediate reaction was to spam all of the side buttons on the screen until I found the one that muted it. Sweet quiet...

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Post by dns_snek »

Fnoord wrote: post #144
somenameforme wrote: post #89

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Sites are using ads to be anti-competitive, such that you literally cannot compete with them on price because their price is $0. I'm rather surprised that we haven't seen the emergence of a site where you are literally paid to use it, because that business model is 100% viable. And the reason that business model is viable is because people don't realize how literally valuable their attention is. And most people also…

SomethingAwful forums have this for ages but also newspapers do, too. As do streaming services. Turns out youth don't have much to spend (nor to people generally outside of West), and it stops sockpuppets somewhat.

Generally speaking youth have more than enough money to pay the same rates advertisers pay. But publishers want to take users who earn them $0.10 per month through ads and charge them $10 per month as a subscription, that's where the business model obviously breaks down and they claim that ads are the only thing that works.

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Post by cindyllm »

dns_snek wrote: post #235
toastercat wrote: post #41

I'm torn. I'm not a huge fan of ads and I don't have a lot of respect for the modern ad networks. However this culture of expecting websites to host the data then freeloading off it by blocking the tracking and ads is also a bit ugly. There is an unwritten social contract here. Websites are willing to host and organise a vast number of content because that'll attract an audience for ads. If there are too may freeload…

My eyeballs and attention are not for sale, I will pay you a reasonable fee for your effort but I will never watch ads and subject myself to tracking as payment, just like I won't provide you with sexual favours as payment, no matter how much you declare it to be "the social contract".

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Post by chaosite »

ainiriand wrote: post #227
mahrain wrote: post #214

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What always surprises me is the sheer amount of fake, scammy, apps trying to appear as if they're something else. Trying to steal clicks from users looking for Adblock, VLC or other legitimate apps... it's a mess!

If it serves any purpose just today I've published docscandroid.app just because the document scanners out there are really scary and do not really fit my purpose. My app is not perfect but its mine and that is enough.

If you built your own app that does exactly what you want for your own use, kudos and more power to you. But otherwise...

You're competing with Google. The built-in Drive app does document scanning.

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Post by throwawaygmbno »

charcircuit wrote: post #90
ryandrake wrote: post #81

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I disagree that there is a societal expectation in this case. If I request HackerNews, it will start sending me bytes. There is no societal expectation around what I do with those bytes. Maybe I'll have my browser render them as-is. Maybe I'll strip out the HTML and render them as plain text in a green 80x24 terminal. Maybe I'll drop every second character and print out the result as wall art. Or (back on topic) when…

>There is no societal expectation around what I do with those bytes Yes, there is. If you had a group of 100 people and asked what google.com should look like and showed them how Chrome renders the page and your 80x24 modification does that all 100 would say that yours is not expected. You are still too hung up on these technical details of how things are implemented than how the average person thinks of these things…

All 100 would agree that the website looks better without ads, unless their paycheck came from them.

And those that disagreed would still think it in their heads.

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Post by reify »

Vinnl wrote: post #194
bambax wrote: post #159

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I'm in the same boat. I never see ads anywhere (and not just on the web: I never watch regular TV (I don't even have a TV), never listen to ads-supported radio stations, etc.) How people put up with ads is a complete mystery.

> I never see ads anywhere (and not just on the web: I never watch regular TV (I don't even have a TV), never listen to ads-supported radio stations, etc.) Ads in public places, bus stops, etc. are kinda hard to avoid unfortunately.

Hey Vinni

Ditto

I dont see any ads online.

I dont have a TV either, I stopped watching that ad infested garbage in 2005.

too old to walk to the bus stop, too much of an introvert to hang out near pulblic places with other people

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Post by everdrive »

dns_snek wrote: post #123
happymellon wrote: post #95

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Firefox and UBlock Origin has never broken for me and works effectively.

Consider yourself lucky. Some of their A/B tests seem to be designed to psychologically torment you with videos "buffering" for 10-60 seconds before they start playing, navigation taking 15+ seconds. If that happens to you, this thread [1] is sometimes updated with manual workarounds that sometimes work: www.youtube.com##+js(nano-stb, resolve(1), *, 0.001) www.youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.EXPERIMENT_FLAGS.web_ena…

>to be designed to psychologically torment you with videos "buffering" for 10-60

I don't mean this as an attack on you. I find it perplexing that this could be such a difficult thing. If a video isn't worth waiting 10-60 seconds for, is the video even worth watching? Consider a comparison to reading a book or watching a DVD. With the DVD you must stand up, walk to the DVD, remove the plastic wrap, turn on the DVD player place the DVD in the tray, wait for the tray to close, load the DVD, wait for the main menu to load, and finally press play to watch your movie. (potentially after navigating through settings to configure audio / subtitles / etc)

The DVD experience could obvious be _better_ (and if you don't care about picture quality you might be shocked how much more convenient a VHS tape is) but this hardly strikes me as any sort of real problem.

Youtube might actually be doing you an accidental favor here; it is the extreme reduction of friction which degrades your impulse control, and is part of what keeps you on the platform too long. By imposing an small but perceptible cost, they might actually keep from your zoning out and watching and instead intentionally watching only the videos you care the most about.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

grugagag wrote: post #239
mauvehaus wrote: post #220

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Have you filled a car with gas any time in the last ~5 years? The pumps around here (New England, USA) start playing ads with sound once you start pumping fuel. It's an absolute delight when your pump and the pump on the other side of your island are playing different ads with different audio or the same ad with the audio just out of sync. Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a…

I wonder what happens if you take a sharp object such a screwdriver and poke all the speakers…

You probably get a visit from the police.
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