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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by vdfs »

Syzygies wrote: post #193

Claude assists me in my math research. The scenario that concerns me is that Claude learns unpublished research ideas from me as we chat and code. Claude then suggests these same ideas to someone else, who legitimately believes this is now their work. Clearly commercial accounts use AI to assist in developing intellectual product, and privacy is mandatory. The same can apply to individuals.

> Claude assists me in my math research.

> Claude then suggests these same ideas to someone else, who legitimately believes this is now their work.

Won't this mean that claude assisted you with someone else work? Sure it's not from a "chat" but claude doesn't really know anything other than it's training data

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by ezfe »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #227

We need that user data is only usable within the ToS under which they were originally collected. No more unilateral altering of the agreement after the fact. Collecting user data should be a liability, not a enormously profitable endeavor.

They aren't retroactively sharing chats unless you continue chatting in an old conversation. So your issue is addressed.

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Post by the_arun »

psychoslave wrote: post #28

What a surprise, a big corp collected large amount of personal data under some promises, and now reveals actually they will exploit it in completely unrelated manner.

From Anthropic communication:

> If you’re an existing user, you have until September 28, 2025 to accept the updated Consumer Terms and make your decision. If you choose to accept the new policies now, they will go into effect immediately. These updates will apply only to new or resumed chats and coding sessions. After September 28, you’ll need to make your selection on the model training setting in order to continue using Claude. You can change your choice in your Privacy Settings at any time.

Doesn’t say clearly it applies to all the prompts from the past.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms

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Post by sim7c00 »

goalieca wrote: post #115
sigmoid10 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

Companies all seem to turn against their users whenever they have revenue/earnings trouble.

remove 'seem to'. it has no place in this sentence anymore. we're not in the stoneage anymore. when has this ever not been the case?

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Post by Aurornis »

hliyan wrote: post #240
psychoslave wrote: post #28

What a surprise, a big corp collected large amount of personal data under some promises, and now reveals actually they will exploit it in completely unrelated manner.

If someone had told me 10 years ago that the typical HN front page in 2025 will look like this (and that #8 may be the UK), I'd never have believed it. And I worry we still have further to go before hitting bottom. 1. Anthropic reverses privacy stance, will train on Claude chats 3. Gun Maker Sig Sauer Citing National Security to Keep Documents from Public 4. Tesla said it didn't have key data in a fatal crash. Then a…

> If someone had told me 10 years ago that the typical HN front page in 2025 will look like

It has always been like this. Sites like Reddit, HN, and Digg and Boing Boing (when they were more popular) have always had a lot of stories under the category of online rights, privacy, and anger at big companies.

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Post by [deleted] »

merelysounds wrote: post #79
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

> opt-in by default Nitpicking: “opt in by default” doesn’t exist, it’s either “opt in”, or “opt out”; this is “opt out”. By definition an “opt out” setting is selected by default.

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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Eggpants »

echelon wrote: post #158
sigmoid10 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

> while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. That doesn't matter when their revenue per user is as high as it is. They're at $5B ARR and rapidly growing.

And yet rapidly still no where close to running a profit. Time to push the "Its a bargain at $500/month!!!!" narrative.

Once they admitted they are going to have to take money from folks who chop up journalists that made them feel sad, they proved the current pre token LLM based business model doesn't work. They haven't pulled the ads lever yet but the writing is on the wall.

Which means sadly only business with other revenue streams like M$, the Google, or Amazon can really afford it long term. I'm was rooting for Anthropic but it doesn't look good.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

diggan wrote: post #145
bigfishrunning wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except LLMs aren't a fundamental or core technology, they're an amusing party trick with some really enthusiastic marketers. We don't need them.

Personally, I'm able to write code I wasn't able to before, like functions heavy with math. For game development, this has been super helpful, when I know basically what inputs I have, and what output I need, but I'm not able to figure out how the actual function implementation should be. Add a bunch of unit tests, let the LLM figure out the math, and I can move on to more important features. For me this been a prett…

Sure, I’m more productive with it in certain aspects of my work as well. Does that make it a net positive for humanity? From the energy consumption impact on climate change alone I would say the answer is clearly no. And that’s before we even talk about the impact on the next generation’s job opportunities. And tons of other issues like how Big Tech is behaving.

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Post by AlexandrB »

Joker_vD wrote: post #97
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

> You can opt out You can say that you want to opt out. What Anthropic will decide to do with your declaration is a different question.

I look forward to this setting getting turned on again "accidentally" when new models are released or the ToS is updated.
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