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> Where in the real world is anonymity considered ok? I am allowed to invite guests into my home even if their identity isn't pre-registered with my landlord.
But guests can't stay over night without registering them in many countries
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I have never heard of a bank that has a hard requirement of a mobile app. Certainly none of the major banks like Wells Fargo or Chase require one. I do not own a phone and managers at times have to come up with undocumented fallback methods, but there is always a way. I cannot imagine a legal defense for forcing someone to accept the terms of service of Apple or Google to use their bank account.
In Sweden we use BankID (there is a similar service with the same name in each Scandinavian country). It's impossibly convenient to be perfectly fair with you, however I know that my bank has stopped issuing the "BankID Card" (which was a card and pin device that allowed you to generate challenge numbers)- and now forces you to use the BankID app -- which will not run on rooted phones of course. It's even slightly wo…
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In Sweden we use BankID (there is a similar service with the same name in each Scandinavian country). It's impossibly convenient to be perfectly fair with you, however I know that my bank has stopped issuing the "BankID Card" (which was a card and pin device that allowed you to generate challenge numbers)- and now forces you to use the BankID app -- which will not run on rooted phones of course. It's even slightly wo…
BankID works great on GrapheneOS fortunately.
I guess I absolutely need the play store to get BankID on the phone- so I’ll try that now with my Pixel 7.
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I could be one of the people running an ungoogled phone, but my bank refuses to have an app that runs on an ungoogled OS for "security"
I have never heard of a bank that has a hard requirement of a mobile app. Certainly none of the major banks like Wells Fargo or Chase require one. I do not own a phone and managers at times have to come up with undocumented fallback methods, but there is always a way. I cannot imagine a legal defense for forcing someone to accept the terms of service of Apple or Google to use their bank account.
My banks all require their own individual apps for authentication and authorization. I can use the website but to log in and authorize any transactions I need their app. Ironically this runs on my 8 year old Android 10 phone (used as a backup) so security can't be part of it.
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My bank blocks my mobile with Lineage OS, and it's not even possible to login to the web site without the mobile app. Absolutely pathetic. Now I have to keep my 4 year old phone with 2 year outdated Android to access the bank application. Which deemed more safe then my mobile with latest security updates. Haha
last time I walked into the bank to do something, they tried to peddle their app. I giggled and said no, their developers don't understand security. my phone is rooted and their app won't work.
Did you actually reach out to Google?
Trying to get hold of the correct person to get proper answers is a bit harder than you think.
If you have an influenctial social account with lots of followers, Google reaches out to you. They only react if something has a potential to hit their PR.
So in order to get in contact with Google, you reach out to influencers, not Google itself.
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These aren't GNU/Linux, they have to follow Google's development strategy. It's like fighting with Chrome by using Chromium.
Nobody was talking about GNU. Most don't care if the userspace utilties are gnu coreutils/libc or musl/busybox for example. AOSP is free and open source software.
Also, you should read all the good arguments on HN why you shouldn't use Chromium even though it's technically FLOSS.
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Why is it so complex to have a foss mobile OS. I only have Linux PCs (laptops) and servers, 100% of my work and personal stuff is done there (though for work I do need to hop into MS365, Google Workspace, Zoom, etc, hooray for browsers, my final firewall between me and the walled gardens, though we can have a whole discussion on that). For mobile, we have PostmarketOS, Phosh, Ubuntu Touch. I really must try living in…
> Why is it so complex to have a foss mobile OS. In a way it's not. As you mention, we have several of them. But they won't have mass-market appeal until they can run the same sorts of apps that Android and iOS can run. And no, "just use the mobile website" is not an answer. How do I deposit a check with my bank on my phone without the app? I can't; the mobile website doesn't have that functionality. How do I send so…
Waydroid allows me to run Android apps on my Librem 5.
> How do I deposit a check with my bank on my phone without the app? I can't; the mobile website doesn't have that functionality
So switch the bank to one not forcing you into the duopoly?
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I think that they are pointing at that using Android in daily life in a meaningful way requires installing Google Play Services because many apps require it.
I wouldn't say that means it's not FOSS, it just means things being FOSS isn't enough to ensure things are good.
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Because PC is an American thing but phones are not. Obsession for standardization, modularity, and cross-compatibility are rather unique American cultural traits that aren't nearly as strongly manifesting elsewhere. "Fits right in" is quintessentially American thing. The entire unitized jet engines on Boeing aircraft drops right off and swaps right into another host, sometimes even to different types of aircraft. PCI…
> Because PC is an American thing but phones are not. I don't really understand what you're talking about here. Android and iOS are American companies. American culture is John Deere locking down their equipment. Anti-consumer laws, pushing IP laws onto the rest of the world by treaty, being overly litigious, these are all American culture. I think the culture you're thinking of is nearly dead in a shell of corporati…
When Google does it, of course, same apk files and NDK binaries just run on every models of every make as if always worked that way.
American companies appear to be the worst offenders in the world when it comes to breaking compatibility and right to repair, and this isn't to say those anti-consumer changes are okay at all, but I do think the reality is that, you can't break something that never existed, and it exists a lot more commonly in American things than in things from elsewhere.