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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I've heard this time and time again. It has nothing to do with the point I'm making. This is just stoking the flamewar. If you want to compare Waymo and Tesla FSD from a technology standpoint and claim superiority of one over the other you can't use simple values like interventions per mile. It says very little. The solutions were designed for different purposes under different constraints. That's what engineers…
You started with "Why is anyone..." and you got your answer - the founder and promoter of the technology has been on record lying about it multiple times. There's lawsuits about it. Steelmanning Tesla's position makes no sense here.
If you're building a cheap mass market self driving vehicle that has to work everywhere you'll make completely different design decisions than a geo restricted taxi. Would you care to acknowledge that simple fact? The amount of hypotheticals you'd have to go through to compare these technologies in superiority up to this point is extensive. Go ahead, do the thought experiment. It would be a lot more interesting than a blanket interventions per mile with zero context.
Otherwise it's a false equivalence dog pile in search of Internet points. We don't need repeating of exhaustingly well known qualities of Tesla's CEO. That's not interesting, the Internet is already overrun with that.
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#243I think that the negativity here is unfortunate. The reality is that it’s very hard to see a normal VC level return on the $100M+ Elon and friends have invested here. And don’t let anyone fool you - this is the fundamental reason the BCI field has moved slowly. If Neuralink proceeds to a scenario where quadriplegic patients can get reliable (ie lifelong) control of their computers for less than $100k that will be a h…
The unfortunate part is that your first thought went to return on investment rather than the humanitarian angle, which I think is the common perspective; optics and money. Then there's the pessimists, like me, wondering how long it'll take to Neuralink to turn their army of computer connected paraplegics into some Mechanical Turk-esque Grok clean up.
Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't matter. That hype will draw attention, which will draw investors, which will draw in money to pay for the best researchers until they become SOTA. If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Distribution is part of innovation. Brain computer interfaces exist but those who would be willing to undergo the procedure to get th…
>If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Because other companies have ethics and follow the rules and best practices. They register their clinical trials with the NIH and they stop and ask questions if half the monkeys they test on end up dead.
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#245This is genuinely exciting, but I still can't help thinking about the Black Mirror episode where a woman requires a subscription to stay alive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_People_(Black_Mirror)
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#246My son has cerebral palsy, doesn't talk and has poor motor skills. I certainly hope this technology progresses.
Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not trying to be snarky, but doesn't this mental model effectively allow you to ignore any/all things otherwise intelligent people have to say, simply because you disagree? If I met Einstein, and he had opinions about how to cook chicken that differed from mine, I wouldn't leap to "he's a complete moron in the kitchen!", i'd be inclined to really attempt to understand the difference of opinion. I'm not disagreeing th…
I already answered this If you are a person who has shown traits of very low intelligence, any fact you state has to have concrete evidence, especially if its something that is not easily verifiable. Meanwhile people who have generally shown themselves to be more intelligent can generally be trusted more from the start. >t is _not_ obviously the case that "anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic…
ffs, go talk to a real conservative sometime. If you lived their life, you would be them.
Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not trying to be snarky, but doesn't this mental model effectively allow you to ignore any/all things otherwise intelligent people have to say, simply because you disagree? If I met Einstein, and he had opinions about how to cook chicken that differed from mine, I wouldn't leap to "he's a complete moron in the kitchen!", i'd be inclined to really attempt to understand the difference of opinion. I'm not disagreeing th…
I already answered this If you are a person who has shown traits of very low intelligence, any fact you state has to have concrete evidence, especially if its something that is not easily verifiable. Meanwhile people who have generally shown themselves to be more intelligent can generally be trusted more from the start. >t is _not_ obviously the case that "anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic…
Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not how things have played out with Tesla. They have all the investment in the world and the most irrational valuation to have ever graced the public markets, yet their tech is years behind competitors.
But they were first to market. That's 90% of the work. There's a huge gap between "perfect unrealized idea" and "shit you can actually buy". Hate the man all you want, he'll go down in history as the Edison of electric vehicles, even though others will undoubtedly surpass the initial public offering technologically.
Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
That “steaming pile at the dog park” drives me driveway-to-parking-lot without intervention on 100% of my drives now. It’s one of the best steaming piles I’ve ever seen and I would pay many dollars for that steaming pile on future cars I purchase.
> would pay many dollars for that steaming pile on future cars I purchase. Thankfully Elon has already got that sorted for you! $12k, and if you sell your Tesla for a new one, you’ll have to buy it again! Doesn’t transfer with you (or the car for that matter, it just vanishes on title transfer).
1. FSD on a new car is currently $8k [0]
2. FSD has been transferable on buying a new car for a while - there’s usually some kind of promo [1]
3. If you don’t transfer it to a new car, it does transfer with the car [2]
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0: https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
1: https://www.tesla.com/support/fsd-transfer
2: I bought my car used and FSD stayed with the car, the default behavior unless you use a promo like [1]