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Post by bombcar »

tomjen3 wrote: post #227
mrtksn wrote: post #107

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Or have actual public places? The Cafe's are there to serve coffee, it's just courtesy as business model to let you hang around in the premises and when the business model starts to fail in some way they adjust it. After university, the most I miss is the actual places that are mine to use and are made for hanging around or working and not necessarily consuming anything.

Local Library?

That, or an old-school “gentlemen’s club” which do still exist in some areas.

And if you’re near a college, you can become a donor and known to the school and be polite and gain access to the public areas.

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Post by bombcar »

john01dav wrote: post #171
mantra2 wrote: post #128

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Little overpriced but I've found Loop Earplugs to help working in coffee shops, etc. Muffles out most of the sound but not everything, enough to focus but not fly off your seat if someone taps your shoulder.

What's the purpose of doing this over working at home where this problem doesn't exist?

For many you really want a distinction between “work area” and “home” - one way is to have a separate office at home to do work in, but you can also leave the house and go somewhere.

If you work on the kitchen table and that’s where you play, also, the mind and body have hard times disengaging from work.

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Post by bombcar »

doublerabbit wrote: post #140
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #79

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I worked for a Japanese company. Paper is a big deal, there. Also, I have long subscribed to Tufte's "supergraphic" methodology, when giving presentations.

> I worked for a Japanese company. Paper is a big deal, there. About time they evolved to the next level then. My point still sticks. Paper waste is a large impact to climate change. We shouldn't be using paper anymore, why do we proceed to waste such as by printing out email's?

Have you actually worked out how much paper waste is? It’s minor and minuscule compared to basically everything else.

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Post by bombcar »

selimthegrim wrote: post #136
jdblair wrote: post #118

In 2014, in a Starbucks in Los Gatos, CA, I saw someone bring in a (small) desktop PC and a monitor and set it up at a table.

My roommate claims she saw the same in the Valley (in Sherman Oaks/VN in LA) in 2019

This joke was closer to real life in 1999: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE_acveWUBMMJNU.jpg

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Post by hombre_fatal »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #219
ecshafer wrote: post #213

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I spent a month in China and saw one homeless person there who was disabled and panhandljng by a tourist location. The subways and trains and stations had no one pissing on the ground, no one sleeping there (except officeworkers resting their eyes on their commute). There were no human feeces on the ground. Maybe, just maybe we dont have to throw our hands up in the air and say theres nothing to do while we allow a s…

"A small group of people [who] make our cities unlivable"... you mean, real estate developers?

The people who are regularly blocked from building housing are the ones making our cities unlivable?

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Post by matthewdgreen »

wkat4242 wrote: post #202
pm90 wrote: post #195

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How will jailing them help? Now the public is on the hook for them. Plus, more jails will be needed if you wanna move all the unhoused in there. Maybe its easier just to build more housing.

They're not the kind of people that can afford housing nor the kind that are able to get a rental contract in the first place. And if they had money they'd just shoot up more. Not trying to diss them but that's just reality. There's very few people homeless because they can't afford it even despite the insane rent prices. Usually it's a ton of untreated mental issues and/or drug addiction. Building more houses will h…

There have been a bunch of recent studies of this and yes, providing housing seems to dramatically reduce homelessness. https://endhomelessness.org/resources/sharable-graphics/data...

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Post by zulban »

forinti wrote: post #240

A food court near my house has slowly turned into an improvised coworking space. It's relatively quiet (as food courts go). For a while, the café even offered a whole day's worth of coffee for a reasonable price. What I don't get is why the increasingly empty malls in my state don't incentivise this more. At the very least they'd earn something from parking and some food and drinks.

Absent owners of malls don't want to think or work with the community to earn money. They just want big anchor store contracts like it's the 90s.

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Post by Nifty3929 »

paxys wrote: post #170
stockresearcher wrote: post #164

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Chicago has "residential zone parking" for the areas of the city that are primarily residential. For $30 per year per car, you get to park on the street in your local zone (2-3 city blocks). Nobody else is allowed to park on the street in that zone. For visitors, you can buy a sheet of stickers for $1 per sticker that enable 1 day of parking. But you can't buy more than 3 sheets in a month (they keep track). I've alw…

Density. If you paid for a parking permit then there's some expectation that a parking spot will be available for you near your house. Except in NYC residents outnumber parking spots 20:1 in some neighborhoods.

I imagine you use prices and rationing to restrict the number of permits to avoid this issue.

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Post by throwaway31131 »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #230
nradov wrote: post #220

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Be careful what you wish for. China also has the hukou system, which is sort of an internal passport that effectively prevents many people from moving into the popular tourist locations. Get out into the rural areas and you'll still see a lot of real poverty, although housing is cheap enough there that there aren't many homeless. There's also a cultural factor at work. Allowing a relative to be homeless causes loss o…

Countries generally have a immigration system that prevents people from moving there when you don't have enough money to support yourself.

In my experience most countries put barriers in place to prevent people from moving into the country, from another country, when you don't have enough money to support yourself, but I believe the parent is describing a system that puts barriers in place for internal migration of its citizens.

Russia has a similar system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_registration_in_Russi...

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Post by ecshafer »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #219
ecshafer wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a month in China and saw one homeless person there who was disabled and panhandljng by a tourist location. The subways and trains and stations had no one pissing on the ground, no one sleeping there (except officeworkers resting their eyes on their commute). There were no human feeces on the ground. Maybe, just maybe we dont have to throw our hands up in the air and say theres nothing to do while we allow a s…

"A small group of people [who] make our cities unlivable"... you mean, real estate developers?

How does a company that builds buildings make cities unlivable? Replacing some SFH with an 8 unit apartment or whatever would make the city more livable.
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