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Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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For now.

Same experience here with a 2024 EX40, happy I did some research before buying (EX30 was looking nice at first). The EX40 is just another iteration of a mature platform, while the EX30/90 are new and still full of bugs apparently... It shows in the central console that looks dated but at least it works and I still have buttons for basic functionnality.

2023 C40 (same platform) here, similar experience. I'm happy with my purchase.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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What reliable is left?

> What reliable is left? Vehicles with 7 or more years of warranty. If a brand has a hype, but short warranty like Toyota, it is only a hype.

I remember, some years back, the warranty period was actually almost inversely correlated with reliability. It seemed like the companies that were making unreliable cars were just hoping to get people onboard with long warranties. There's a great story on Reddit from years ago about the lifetime Kia warranty, and a car that went through something like 7 engines in 10 years.

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What reliable is left?

Toyota, Lexus, Subaru, Honda. Not sure if Hyundai & Kia are quite as reliable, but if not it's on them because they have some of the best warranties in the industry.

My Kia Stinger is 6 years old, ~45K miles, including some modifications, 8 HPDE track days, etc. It's had a few quirks that I've had to learn (don't switch from default driving mode to sport while driving in reverse and then quickly shifting to drive mode - it confuses the sensors. A restart solves the issue 100%). Sound system "enhanced" mode sometimes stops playing all sound - eventually it comes back, and turning off the enhanced mode always restores sound - but it sounds SO much better. Phantom presses on the center screen if there's a large temperature differential (screen heated up by the sun, A/C on in the car, for example). None critical to the basics.

It's never been back to the dealer except for a free oil change at ~1K miles. Mainly because the reputation of Kia dealers is that it's hard to say whether you will be in worse shape if they deny or accept your warrantied repair. I mean, if the engine fails, sure, they can't make it any worse. But there are many stories of people getting a recall and the coolant system not properly bled, so the car overheats on the way home. Or a dealer refusing an obvious warranty repair for ridiculous reasons - only to try to sell you a non-warranty repair for the same problem, etc.

I am driving my car as if there is no warranty, at this point. It's been a GREAT car to drive in most ways, but I don't expect Kia to come through and fix any drivetrain issue in the next few years / 55K miles, if needed.

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This is just a silly statement. Your 2007, 2016, and 2016 vehicles were all new cars in 2007, 2016, and 2016. There are plenty of 2020-era cars that are, so far, remarkably reliable and cheap to maintain and repair. It's simply that Volvo and Polestar are quite bad at making vehicles.

Sure but if they bought those cars in 2010 and 2019, then there would've been plenty of time for quality issues to show up in those models.

And plenty of time spent in dealerships waiting for recalls or keeping the service record pristine

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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I rented an Audi Q7 for a week recently. The drive quality of the car is excellent. But the software is terrible. Just getting CarPlay to work every time is a challenge. I will not be buying an Audi any time soon. As more and more of the vehicle's experience becomes software controlled, manufacturers who don't have good software development teams are going to lose out. German companies don't seem to understand the gr…

>German companies don't seem to understand the growing importance of software VWAG is now on attempt number two of fixing their Software problems. They tried Cariad, the result was your experience. The next attempt is giving billions to Rivian. If you believe that these companies do not understand how important software is you are totally delusional. Literally Billions worth of money have they spent trying to fix tha…

Sure - they get the trouble reports. But it's almost as if all the critical decision makers don't drive their own cars in real-life scenarios (drive more expensive cars? Have chaffeurs?) and don't understand how much BETTER it is to have a specific button/dial for "fan speed" and a separate one for temperature, instead of trying to control it via a touchscreen that has 100+ different screens it could be displaying when you want to adjust the temperature / fan speed.

Yes, I get it - deleting 7 buttons gets you that $1M bonus - but it totally borks the system for the everyday driver, who then becomes less loyal.

At this point, there are very, VERY few companies I'm loyal to, because almost none are loyal to me - they'll all give "new users" better deals, and take advantage of any loyalty I have to gouge me and charge me more than a competitor.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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I had a horrible experience with my XC90 plug in hybrid. It took months of back and forth with the dealership and thousands of dollars to find out that it's dangerous behavior (refusing to stop without flooring the break with all my might) was due to a wire harness a critter had chewed on. Very similar response from Volvo in my case. No accountability and very low competence. Avoid Volvo.

I'm shocked that that didn't trigger any kind of warning or alert

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Toyota, Lexus, Subaru, Honda. Not sure if Hyundai & Kia are quite as reliable, but if not it's on them because they have some of the best warranties in the industry.

Not so sure about Subaru. I love my Outback but it is also the only car I've ever owned which left me stranded twice due to two separate firmware issues. Both issues were known and Subaru failed to communicate them to me. I will probably go with Toyota for our next car despite loving the handling and comfort of our Subaru.

Yeah, we have an Outback as well (2017) and it, too, left us "stranded" (it was parked at home but failed when we really needed it) due to probably the same thing ? Ours drained the battery dead both times. We brought it in both times and had them look it over, both times they blamed us, saying we left a light on (we didn't). Then my wife remembered a recall notice concerning the electrical system, and suddenly they were able to fix the issue. Really put a dent in my trust with them.

Great car otherwise. Well, the CVT isn't the best for driving. But the AWD and agility and snow handling is fantastic.

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