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Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

HN doesn't have a strong enough protection against bots, so foreign influence campaign bots with the goal of spreading negative sentiment about American technology companies are, I believe, very common here.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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> I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad... all the actual educated takes are on X Almost every technical comment on HN is wrong (see for example essentially all the discussion of Rust async, in which people keep making up silly claims that Rust maintainers then attempt to patiently explain are wrong). The idea that the "educated" takes are on X though... that's crazy talk.

With regard to AI & LLMs Twitter/x is actually the only place with all of the industry people discussing. There are a bunch of great accounts to follow that are only really posting content to x. Karpathy, nearcyan, kalomaze, all of the OpenAI researchers including the link this discussion is on, many anthropic researchers. It's such a meme that you see people discuss reading Twitter thread + paper because the thread…

Too hyperbolic for, against, or either way?

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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It’s interesting how hard and widespread a push they’re making in advertising this - at this particular moment, when there are rumors of more high level recruitment attempts / successes by Zuck. OpenAI is certainly a master at trying to drive narratives. (Independent of the actual significance / advance here). Sorry, there are too many hundreds of billions of dollars involved to not be a bit cautious and wary of claims being pushed this hard.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain

Accepting openai at face value is just the lazy stance.

Finding a critic perspective and try to understand why it can be wrong is more fun. You just say "I was wrong" when proved wrong.

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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I believe this company used to present its results and approach in academic papers with enough details so that it could be reproduced by third parties. Now it is just doing a bunch of tweets?

thats when they were a real research company. the last proper research they did was instructGPT, everything since has been product development and following others. the reputation hit hasnt caught up with them because sam altman has built a whole career out of outrunning the reputation lag

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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Some previous predictions: In 2021 Paul Christiano wrote he would update from 30% to "50% chance of hard takeoff" if we saw an IMO gold by 2025. He thought there was an 8% chance of this happening. Eliezer Yudkowsky said "at least 16%". Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sWLLdG6DWJEy3CH7n/imo-challe...

Context? Who are these people and what are these numbers and why shouldn't I assume they're pulled from thin air?

ask chatgpt

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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I went through the thread and saw nothing that looked like this. I don’t think developers will be obsolete in five years. I don’t think AGI is around the corner. But I do think this is the biggest breakthrough in computer science history. I worked on accelerating DNNs a little less than a decade ago and had you shown me what we’re seeing now with LLMs I’d say it was closer to 50 years out than 20 years out.

its very clearly a major breakthrough for humanity

Perhaps only for a very small part of humanity...

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you can add an /s to your earlier comment to make it more obvious it was a joke rather than a direct rebuttal that it got taken as

Or I can leave it as is and see who is actually paying attention

Re: OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025

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I went through the thread and saw nothing that looked like this. I don’t think developers will be obsolete in five years. I don’t think AGI is around the corner. But I do think this is the biggest breakthrough in computer science history. I worked on accelerating DNNs a little less than a decade ago and had you shown me what we’re seeing now with LLMs I’d say it was closer to 50 years out than 20 years out.

Greatest breakthru in compsci. You mean the one that paves the way for ancient Egyptian slave worker economies? Or totalitarian rule that 1984 couldn't imagine? Or...... Worse? The intermediate classes of society always relied on intelligence and competence to extract money from the powerful. AI means those classes no longer have power.

Right, if people want to talk about how they are worried about a future with super intelligence AI, that's I think something almost everyone can agree on is a worthy topic, maybe to different degrees but not the issue in my mind.

I think what it feels like I see a lot, are people who - because of their fear of a future with super intelligent AI - try to like... Deny the significance of the event, if only because they don't _want_ to wrestle with the implications.

I think it's very important we don't do that. Let's take this future seriously, so we can align ourselves on a better path forward... I fear a future where we have years of bickering in the public forums on the veracity or significance of claims, if only because this subset of the public who are incapable of mentally wrestling with the wild fucking shit we are walking into.

If not this, what is your personal line in the sand? I'm not specifically talking to any person when I say this. I just can't help but to feel like I'm going crazy, seeing people deny what is right in front of their eyes.

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