The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain
OpenAI claims gold-medal performance at IMO 2025
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> I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad... all the actual educated takes are on X Almost every technical comment on HN is wrong (see for example essentially all the discussion of Rust async, in which people keep making up silly claims that Rust maintainers then attempt to patiently explain are wrong). The idea that the "educated" takes are on X though... that's crazy talk.
With regard to AI & LLMs Twitter/x is actually the only place with all of the industry people discussing. There are a bunch of great accounts to follow that are only really posting content to x. Karpathy, nearcyan, kalomaze, all of the OpenAI researchers including the link this discussion is on, many anthropic researchers. It's such a meme that you see people discuss reading Twitter thread + paper because the thread…
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#245The cynicism/denial on HN about AI is exhausting. Half the comments are some weird form of explaining away the ever increasing performance of these models I've been reading this website for probably 15 years, its never been this bad. many threads are completely unreadable, all the actual educated takes are on X, its almost like there was a talent drain
Finding a critic perspective and try to understand why it can be wrong is more fun. You just say "I was wrong" when proved wrong.
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#246I believe this company used to present its results and approach in academic papers with enough details so that it could be reproduced by third parties. Now it is just doing a bunch of tweets?
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#247Some previous predictions: In 2021 Paul Christiano wrote he would update from 30% to "50% chance of hard takeoff" if we saw an IMO gold by 2025. He thought there was an 8% chance of this happening. Eliezer Yudkowsky said "at least 16%". Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sWLLdG6DWJEy3CH7n/imo-challe...
Context? Who are these people and what are these numbers and why shouldn't I assume they're pulled from thin air?
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I went through the thread and saw nothing that looked like this. I don’t think developers will be obsolete in five years. I don’t think AGI is around the corner. But I do think this is the biggest breakthrough in computer science history. I worked on accelerating DNNs a little less than a decade ago and had you shown me what we’re seeing now with LLMs I’d say it was closer to 50 years out than 20 years out.
its very clearly a major breakthrough for humanity
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I went through the thread and saw nothing that looked like this. I don’t think developers will be obsolete in five years. I don’t think AGI is around the corner. But I do think this is the biggest breakthrough in computer science history. I worked on accelerating DNNs a little less than a decade ago and had you shown me what we’re seeing now with LLMs I’d say it was closer to 50 years out than 20 years out.
Greatest breakthru in compsci. You mean the one that paves the way for ancient Egyptian slave worker economies? Or totalitarian rule that 1984 couldn't imagine? Or...... Worse? The intermediate classes of society always relied on intelligence and competence to extract money from the powerful. AI means those classes no longer have power.
I think what it feels like I see a lot, are people who - because of their fear of a future with super intelligent AI - try to like... Deny the significance of the event, if only because they don't _want_ to wrestle with the implications.
I think it's very important we don't do that. Let's take this future seriously, so we can align ourselves on a better path forward... I fear a future where we have years of bickering in the public forums on the veracity or significance of claims, if only because this subset of the public who are incapable of mentally wrestling with the wild fucking shit we are walking into.
If not this, what is your personal line in the sand? I'm not specifically talking to any person when I say this. I just can't help but to feel like I'm going crazy, seeing people deny what is right in front of their eyes.