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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

jszymborski wrote: post #192

So is it truly the case that I can now pay for Kagi without my searches being associated to my account? And I dont mean by scouts pledge, but I recall reading something about anonymous crypto tokens? I'd consider getting an account if so.

Privacy pass exists, but is limited to 1,500 tokens per month (3, batches of 500). Furthermore, they do not allow disabling safe search or customizing the results in any way (including your block lists) when using it.

Also, since they are the token signer, make sure you use a different IP to get tokens signed / when logged in, otherwise the traffic for the "private" searches is trivially reversible.

So... Kinda useless right now?

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by dcow »

eldaisfish wrote: post #156
vickychijwani wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s ironic the way you put it - the US has also invaded many countries, is responsible for a lot of cyber crime, and uses misinformation to sow chaos in other countries [1]. Should we all stop “funding“ the US? Somehow Ukranian lives are precious, but Iraqi and Bangladeshi lives are not? I have no horse in this race - I’m neither American nor Russian, nor do I particularly love either country. But I am tired of US h…

let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.

What makes you so certain the US is less bad than Russia?

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by yoavm »

adhamsalama wrote: post #204
eldaisfish wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.

How many countries have Russia invaded in the last 50 years? And the same for the US? The US invaded more and killed more innocent civilians, so pretending it's any better than Russia is hypocrisy at best.

I don't think Russia has many neighbouring countries it can still invade, because it literally already did all of them (except Norway?). And with their size, they have a lot of neighbours. It's very comfortable to restrict your argument to the last 50 years, but the true story of Russia is completely different.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by dcow »

dcminter wrote: post #237
dcow wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely, Vlad’s strong sense of engaging in ethical business and utmost respect for and understanding of what it means to remain neutral is precisely why I use Kagi, and why I believe Kagi will beat Google in the long run—why I invested in Kagi.

> why I invested in Kagi Do you mean in the sense of investing in your tools, or do you mean that you're one of Kagi's investors?

Both.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by margalabargala »

andoando wrote: post #117
margalabargala wrote: post #78

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It is not possible for any one person to maintain 100% awareness of the entire planet, nor is it feasible for most people to simply live in the woods as a hunter-gatherer and take nothing from others who might do wrong elsewhere. Once we accept that each of us is a human rather than a morally perfect literal supernatural angel, each of us must decide: If we cannot sanction all wrongdoers, does that mean we sanction n…

So go head and sanction the US because as far as I am aware its still the largest imperial power in the world

Since I live there, that fails the metric of:

> "minimum impact on my own life"

Which I justified:

> Once we accept that each of us is a human rather than a morally perfect literal supernatural angel, each of us must decide: If we cannot sanction all wrongdoers, does that mean we sanction no wrongdoers, or some?

But you should absolutely feel free to do so if you are so inclined!

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by oidar »

freediver wrote: post #126
throw123xz wrote: post #123

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I don't know if you should drop Yandex or if the alternatives are better or not, but I feel that you're missing the point here. You're looking at this purely from a technical point of view. That makes sense when trying to make the best search engine, I guess, but humans are not machines. You talk about geopolitics and search quality, when the guy you replied to is thinking about indirectly funding a machine that is b…

I understand your perspective and don't take these concerns lightly - I was a refugee of two wars myself, so I'm deeply aware of human suffering and its impact. Our mission to humanize the web means ensuring universal access to human knowledge, regardless of politics, delivered with clarity and protected with integrity - for everyone, regardless of their location or circumstances. A search engine that filters sources…

Would it be possible for users to opt out of Yandex, thus removing any Yandex results from their searches? We can do this with specific websites, why not yandex?

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by andoando »

margalabargala wrote: post #246
andoando wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So go head and sanction the US because as far as I am aware its still the largest imperial power in the world

Since I live there, that fails the metric of: > "minimum impact on my own life" Which I justified: > Once we accept that each of us is a human rather than a morally perfect literal supernatural angel, each of us must decide: If we cannot sanction all wrongdoers, does that mean we sanction no wrongdoers, or some? But you should absolutely feel free to do so if you are so inclined!

You don't have to sanction everything, just as much as you can.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by rpdillon »

jwr wrote: post #23
EA-3167 wrote: post #18

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Wait until you hear about the EU! https://e360.yale.edu/digest/europe-russia-ukraine-war-natur... Hell, a Spanish company just violated export sanctions and sold a machine used to make artillery barrels to Russia, and the Spanish government just shrugged. I'm not sure why Kagi has to be squeaky clean down to the last dollar when our own governments don't even have to meaningfully enforce their own sanctions.

This kind of whataboutism is what leads to the current sad state of the world. One can look at any moral choice issue, say "but what about… [insert something here]" and then proceed to ignore it and do nothing. I choose to take moral stands. Yes, it might be insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but I still choose to do so. Having read the (rather disappointing) responses: all of them create some sort of artif…

You've edited your post.

> Having read the (rather disappointing) responses: all of them create some sort of artificial construct and result in doing nothing.

The acknowledgement that issues are not one-dimensional is not artificial. Sincerely: you're deluding yourself that you're helping Ukraine by not subscribing to Kagi.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by Heidaradar »

jwr wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

Do you have the same opinion on companies that are based in israel/give money to israeli companies?
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