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Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by zbentley »

Ray20 wrote: post #205
Tepix wrote: post #166

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> #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. And if we want to maxim…

> If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact.

Is it? What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? What are the factors uniquely provided by the US that make this “fact” true? Are there factors in the US working against good outcomes for committed people?

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Post by mopsi »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #228
shafyy wrote: post #220

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It also made "no sense" for Russia to attack Ukraine. This is not about rational thinking.

If we are to be completely rational, what made no sense was Ukraine thinking it could be a part of NATO, or independent. It is the sad reality of existing next to a superpower. You cannot be independent. It would either be heavily influenced by Russia, or the option B they chose: in rubble.

This line of reasoning is exactly why everyone bordering Russia is preparing for an invasion, and why no one deludes themselves with "Mr. Hitler will surely stop at Poland." It's not about NATO, ethnic Russians, or any other common excuse, but a fundamental collision between an imperialistic view of the world (represented by Putin's dictatorship) and a cooperative one (represented by the EU). Nations are naturally drawn to the EU, which does not force them to live under someone's boot, and Putin tries to stop that through raw violence.

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Post by dgb23 »

There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption.

It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by Ray20 »

zbentley wrote: post #241
Ray20 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. And if we want to maxim…

> If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. Is it? What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? What are the factors uniquely provided by the US that make this “fact” true? Are there factors in the US working against…

> What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries?

Poverty, underdeveloped medicine, less variety of relevant goods and services

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by lotsofpulp »

dgb23 wrote: post #243

There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption. It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

The new tax bill, which benefits asset owners (wealthy), older people, and the beneficiaries of the wealthy.

When you have a population age histogram that is flattening and eventually an upside down triangle, you need some way of extracting labor from the young and giving it to the old (the chosen ones who can afford it) to maintain the socioeconomic hierarchy.

The young without inheritances won’t ever have it as good, so you’ll need to distract them and otherwise fool them into believing it is their duty to transfer their earned income via earned income taxes to the elderly.

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Post by pjc50 »

schmidtleonard wrote: post #101
beanjammin wrote: post #67

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They certainly want us to feel like its unfixable, but it's not. Were govt to put the effort into the energy transition that we saw in the early days of covid we could zero our emissions, and relatively quickly. The technology is largely available, it needs to be implemented. The ties between the fossil fuel industry and the far right are clear. Apathy, indifference, inertia, they are all products of propaganda and u…

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You weren't paying attention to his Twitter, then. The far right turn was extremely obvious.

Re: Websites hosting major US climate reports taken down

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Post by pjc50 »

dgb23 wrote: post #243

There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption. It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

The question is "for whom is the payoff?" and they've made that very clear.

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Post by pjc50 »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #215
ben_w wrote: post #185

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That a Ukraine loss is seen as the end of a free Europe (because Russia wouldn't stop at least until at least DDR Germany borders), is why the other European nations are collectively increasing military spending. For a sense of scale (only scale, money is definitely not the most important criteria), the EU currently spends twice as much on their military as Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with…

It makes no sense whatsoever for Russia to attack more states than Ukraine. The sole reason Russia invaded Ukraine was that it was flirting too much with NATO. Putin might be a lunatic, but he is not stupid.

.. which has had the effect of forcing formerly neutral Finland, which shares a border with Russia, to join NATO.

The claim that Russia has a right to dictate the alliances of other countries simply because they border it is ludicrous and violates international law.

(Simo Häyhä had something to say about last time Russia invaded Finland)

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Post by pjc50 »

monetus wrote: post #106
resters wrote: post #56

As the US slowly becomes N. Korea...

How in the world did Juche become our national philosophy? I'm not sure, but I think about it all the time now. I'm on HN, so I tend to want to blame the ad industry. It's pretty nebulous to think that "made in America" directly snowballed into this; so many things did. The freakier nativism in advertising really could use a break right about now though.

Sibling comment has it about right: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44450898

One of the underlying contradictory elements in the national philosophy of America since its founding has been white supremacy. Yes, that conflicts with "believe all men are created equal". No, this hasn't been properly resolved despite periods of extreme violence. I believe it's the anniversary of Gettysburg about now?

Hence the $45bn for putting people in camps. It's right there in the budget. Of course, that drip-fed in bipartisan fashion: there have been (smaller!) internments of immigrants for a long time.

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