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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

drob518 wrote: post #184
somenameforme wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

Yep. And this is why “liquid glass” is the hot new thing this year. That’s basically all we have left to drive the refresh cycle that tech is addicted to.

It surprises me that this is what apple has essentially boiled down to. Yes there are people stuck in the walled garden but they were willingly stuck there tbh. They liked apple vision and felt different. But if apple is just going to lose on all fronts ("AI","vision?","This year innovation=liquid-glass") Yeah, they might not be in a good state..., Also most people I see want an iphone just rebuy old iphones and those phones themselves are still in good conditions.

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Post by nixpulvis »

JimDabell wrote: post #222
somenameforme wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

> Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. iPhone sales aren’t plummeting at all: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho... https://www.demandsage.com/iphone-user-statistics/

While sales may not be plummeting. Hype around the market sure has. Nobody is really that excited about the next iPhone anymore.

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Post by andy99 »

somenameforme wrote: post #161
keiferski wrote: post #40

Apple without Ive and Jobs increasingly has a taste problem. Everything from their ads to things like this are just in really poor taste, and aren’t something that they would have done 15 years ago because they would have thought it was beneath their brand. I like Apple, so I’m really hoping they bring on someone to solve this. Otherwise they’re on track to be the same as every other tasteless tech company. More on t…

Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

If they are offering value add services, I'd much rather pay for them directly than have them subsidized be ads, sort of analogous to MS Office 365 (ideally with better privacy).

Maybe a direct pay model doesn't have enough reach for a big company in which case hopefully we'll get a Kagi-style paid phone OS from someone.

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Post by binarymax »

sneak wrote: post #227

By default, the home screen of an Apple TV shows video ads for Apple subscription content, also.

Ads are annoying but I at least understand that on Apple TV you'd see ads for entertainment content. Having it show up in Wallet is a complete disconnect.

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Post by manchmalscott »

nyc_pizzadev wrote: post #157

I got this ad, and ya, I was truly bewildered to get such an ad and then shocked that it came from my Wallet. I then spent the next hour searching how to disable this new marketing stream and it looks like nothing can be done. Anyway, glad to see I’m not alone here.

They have added an option to disable marketing messages in the wallet app..... in the new iOS 26 beta. which uh, really makes it look like they were not planning on doing this just this once.

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Post by bliteben »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #50
dubcanada wrote: post #45

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Jobs has been gone for almost 15 years. From what I know Ive had nothing to do with anything but design aesthetic. I am not sure either of these people have anything to do with ads on Apple Wallet. Or even Apple Wallet…

The point is, when Jobs was around, there was an overarching (unstated?) policy at Apple of “nobody do anything to make us look like cheap tasteless shits”. Whereas now, Tim Cook is very happy to sell out for a quick buck. He's a logistics guy, not a product guy, and at his core is a bean counter; he neither has taste nor appreciates that it has value unto itself.

Jobs had won complete cultural dominance of desktop pcs with the iMac 27". If you saw a desktop on a tv show for the past 20 years it was an iMac 27". Tim saw they could cancel it and go against their policy of minimal cords and sell separate Mac minis and Mac Studio displays.

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Post by dghlsakjg »

ericmay wrote: post #196
somenameforme wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

> I have a 6 year old phone that was cheap when it was new, and it still runs 100% of what I use my phone for, and most people use their phones for, perfectly. Just to be clear your suggesting that your 6 year old iPhone runs a suit of social media apps, full graphics games like Minecraft (or whatever the hell people play these days I don’t know), fitness apps, connects to the latest audio devices like Apple’s AirPod…

My 2019 iPhone 11 does all that just fine. I chose to replace the battery when it 80% of original capacity a few months ago.

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Post by t8sr »

I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain.

If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this comment and think about how screwed the industry would be if everyone acted the way they did.

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Post by op00to »

nixpulvis wrote: post #242
JimDabell wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. iPhone sales aren’t plummeting at all: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho... https://www.demandsage.com/iphone-user-statistics/

While sales may not be plummeting. Hype around the market sure has. Nobody is really that excited about the next iPhone anymore.

This is the first time in a long time I’m not interested in replacing my phone after a year.

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Post by WrongAssumption »

jcranmer wrote: post #238
JimDabell wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. iPhone sales aren’t plummeting at all: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho... https://www.demandsage.com/iphone-user-statistics/

A graph whose data ends in 2018 isn't strong evidence for "they aren't plummeting." That said, doing some searches for newer information (e.g., https://www.businessofapps.com/data/apple-statistics/ ) suggests that iPhone sales aren't plummeting but are instead rather stable. (Although I wonder how much of that is services attributed to iPhone as opposed to solely the sales revenue from iPhone, the source doesn't make…

How does the source not make it clear? The first two bullets from your source.

“Apple generated $390.8 billion revenue in 2024, 51% came from iPhone sales

Apple Services is the second largest division, responsible for 24% of revenue in 2024”

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