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Post by jrs235 » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 2:46 PM UTC

cxr wrote: post #162

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #143

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This. The selfish point (there are other points too) of "hi" is to confirm you have their attention and to remove plausible deniability of "oops I missed your message."

Weird subthread. > The selfish point (there are other points too) of "hi" is to confirm you have their attention No one is unsure of the selfish/self-serving motivation behind the lone "hello". The singleminded self-centeredness at the expense of others is the _entire_ basis of the criticism. This response is like encountering in a thread about lunch theft in the workplace, "Some people take food that isn't theirs be…

Post by hiAndrewQuinn » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 3:00 PM UTC

quietbritishjim wrote: post #229

hiAndrewQuinn wrote: post #221

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Yes, I do. Sometimes people want (more) synchronous communication despite the asynchronous medium. Among other things that helps guarantee a speedy response. A lot of people use asynchronicity as a way to simply avoid answering in a timely fashion, so framing it like this can make sense if you can't afford that. In addition, seeing the chat bubbles appear moments after you finish your round is a good sign the other p…

Seems like you might be looking for a phone call

Post by drcongo » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 4:08 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #236

drcongo wrote: post #232

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As a Brit, let me tell you, there is no such thing as a British accent. Our accents vary wildly by region, and sometimes those regions can be under ten miles away, let alone the huge differences between the four home nations. My own is basically what Americans imagine an English accent to be, a bit Hugh Grant but not as posh. Siri can do the basics for me, but playing some random song when any of us have asked it to…

Oh, certainly—mine is vaguely East Midlands, as that's where my father comes from. But without knowing that the person one's talking to is British, just saying "British accent" is going to be much clearer.

Post by ninalanyon » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 6:49 PM UTC

hanche wrote: post #215

ninalanyon wrote: post #197

Arthur Clarke made this point in a story about high latency communication half a century or more ago. He made the point that one should simply keep talking rather than wait for questions and answers to ping pong back and forth. While one is providing an answer you can be asking the next question. I can't remember the name of the story though. The solution was expressed in slightly sexist terms: speak like to women ha…

I could have sworn it was Asimov, but now I’m not so sure. As I remember it, the problem was communication with astronauts in the outer reaches of the solar system.

Post by fc417fc802 » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 8:51 PM UTC

cxr wrote: post #246

fc417fc802 wrote: post #225

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This is such a ridiculously cynical interpretation. I'm sure there at least a few people out there who behave as you describe but that is not normal. Greeting people before launching into a topic is a social norm. Even if you make a reasonable case that it is outdated in the context of instant messaging that doesn't change the reality of it. Someone doing something that you consider outdated or inefficient does not i…

> This is such a ridiculously cynical interpretation. no u > Someone doing something that you consider outdated or inefficient does not imply that he is malicious. The absence of malice does not erase the harmful effects.