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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by dbalatero »

apples_oranges wrote: post #31
meowface wrote: post #15

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I watched it for the first time immediately after finishing Andor. Definitely better than the other Star Wars films but definitely not as good as Andor. (I'm aware the showrunner of Andor co-wrote Rogue One, but Andor really seems like a different tier.)

You guys are excluding the George Lucas movies from discussion right? In my opinion nothing ever came even close and I gave up on SW after the second Kylo Ren movie. Rouge one was cool though, also first episodes of Mandalorian.. Should I really try Andor after all the bad stuff Disney made? A few days ago I watched the new LILO and Stitch and that was great, so maybe good people still work at Disney …

I thought Mandalorian was trash, every episode a video game fetch quest. In general I hate modern Star Wars. Andor is in a different category and totally worth it.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by dbalatero »

mopenstein wrote: post #229
fettel wrote: post #93

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I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan, fell in love as a young kid. I remember being in 8th grade and being so excited for the prequels, and then walking out of the theater after Ep. 1 and feeling like something was just... wrong. I knew that it was junk, and not the Star Wars I fell in love with. And from there it was pretty much further and further downhill, with occasional glimpses of hope that were quickly dashed. I tried…

This can't be true. I'm reading all these positive accolades for Andor in this thread and there's no way I'm watching it. Star Wars after Jedi is garbage. Lucas got me with those awful prequels and Disney got me with the first 2 new movies. I will never watch another Star Wars anything outside of the original 3 movies. Either you never really abandon your Star Wars fandom or you're lying. There can be no other choice…

Lol ok calm down. I agree with your quality assessment broadly, but I just finished Andor and it's excellent.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by everyone »

My friend was telling me Andor S2 is insanely good. So I'm seriously considering watching it.

However, I had previously watched a few eps of S1, and everything was fine and very well made.. but I just didnt care about anything that was going on, so I stopped.

Just wondering did anyone else feel the same about S1 and then get blown away by S2?

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by majkinetor »

xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

Entertainment is not critical.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by majkinetor »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #232
mananaysiempre wrote: post #222

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Enough to feed with two pizzas[1]. [1] https://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoPizzaTeam.html

How many slices does each person get to eat?

The less, the better. Its junk food after all and humans think better when hungry. :)

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by udkl »

everyone wrote: post #243

My friend was telling me Andor S2 is insanely good. So I'm seriously considering watching it. However, I had previously watched a few eps of S1, and everything was fine and very well made.. but I just didnt care about anything that was going on, so I stopped. Just wondering did anyone else feel the same about S1 and then get blown away by S2?

Yes, I am the same. I enjoyed the entire S2 even though I left S1 after 1 or 2 episodes.

S2 has great, great acting and characters along-with good pacing since they apparently jammed in at-least 2 seasons into a single season. It starts out strong too.

S2 shows the larger republic and it's politics and factions. This gives you a broader galactic context of what's going on. This enamored me and got me to go back and re-watch the first 6 movies. I originally watched them as a teen and was lost at the time. Really started to appreciate the setting and story now.

I need to go back and watch the remainder of S1 though since they say it gets better later.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by cwillu »

LilBytes wrote: post #41
cwillu wrote: post #11

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Andor didn't really have any issues with that, IMO.

Depends on your TV, watching it on an LED TV was difficult, darks bled into each other. On OLED (and I assume Micro-LED) though it was just _phenominal_.

I watched it on an old lcd in a bright room, and personally had no issues.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by triceratops »

techpineapple wrote: post #182
xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

I imagine this to greatly idealize the film industry, I mean, Tony Gilroy did have to “file a ticket with the product owner” to put the word “fuck” in one of the episodes and was denied. If you have a lot of cred you can get Final Cut and creative freedom, but I imagine most film productions are as bad if not worse than your average scrum experience. Not the least of which, if you screw up a release in your software…

I've never watched Andor but I can't imagine any Star Wars content with profanity. There's nothing wrong with profanity. Many of my favorite movies and TV shows have it in spades. I just don't see it fitting in with Star Wars.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by ninkendo »

ghaff wrote: post #6
meowface wrote: post #3

The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

For quite a while, the further the films/series are separated from the original trilogy, the better they seem to be.

I maintain that the Jedi are the most boring thing about Star Wars, and the less about them we hear in a story, the better. Andor managed to go the whole series run without a single lightsaber going brrr, and it’s the best Star Wars outside of the original trilogy.

The empire is a compelling thing to make stories about, and what Andor does well is actually make the whole thing believable. It’s not a bunch of cackling supervillains aiming to be maximally evil, like it is in so many of the movies… it’s an actually-believable thing, filled with characters with their own motivations, none of whom are explicitly evil by themselves, but through all of them evil is done. The episodes of season 1 when Andor is arrested and sent to prison are the most compelling and actually-scary depictions of the empire ever put to film. It’s just that good.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by hackyhacky »

troupo wrote: post #224
hackyhacky wrote: post #219

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> a kiss at the sunset They don't kiss. And that's not a sunset.

You know exactly what I mean. It couldn't have been more predictable, cheezy and cliched if it was and actual kiss at the sunset

I know what you mean and I completely disagree. It's a subversion a standard trope. Moreover, the fraternal relationship between the two leads is a reference to Andor's arc in Andor. It's an ending about sacrifice that wouldn't make sense in any other context.
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