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Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by amluto »

herbst wrote: post #232
amluto wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of machines for which the manufacturer cheaped out on buttons and displays, so instead you press a complicated sequence of buttons that is poorly described in the manual. And a machines, especially drip machines, are not easy to safely rinse, so getting the cleaner back out can be extremely challenging.

You can't cheap out on a coffee machine. That's basically the one rule if you really like coffee (and health for that matter) Source: I repaired coffee machines for a while as teenager and seen horrible mold or quality machines. Nothing in between

I’ve encountered cheap drip machines, and I’ve encountered pricier drip machines. I have never encountered one that didn’t have an utterly terrible path for the water.

And even some rather nice Breville espresso machines have something like three buttons and a couple little LEDs. They work well, but good luck deciding the blink pattern meaning “you must descale me now” and actually running the descaling cycle without a manual.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by Kirby64 »

rectang wrote: post #238
Kirby64 wrote: post #237

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Please read what I wrote more carefully. It's considered a roast defect by coffee roasting professionals. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to hate it. If for some reason you like 'woodsy' or 'grassy' coffee, more power to you. My point is that taste is not that subjective, but taste preference may be subjective. If you're a coffee roasting professional, you would attempt to get rid of such flavors since you're…

I’m sure I’ve experienced “roast defects” at some point. However, I’ve tried a lot of light roasts — some of which I’ve liked quite a lot — and surely not all of them were afflicted with such defects. What I’m describing as a general character of light roasts (more present flavor components compared to dark roasts since they are less burned away), which I’m characterizing as “green” or “woodsy”, probably isn’t what y…

> You’re fixating on the vocabulary rather than what is being conveyed.

You're conveying meaning with your vocabulary even if you don't mean to. If you don't have the proper words to describe it, that's fine. Like I said, some people even enjoy particular defects in coffee. For instance, growing defects known as 'quakers' have a particular peanuty taste. It's considered undesirable, but some people might like that.

As to your general idea of conveying that light roasts all taste a certain way, I don't think I can agree to that notion. There's such a wide variety of flavors you can cultivate depending on the origin, roasting style, and processing method that you can't really make that generalization.

One thing I will say: many coffees that are advertised as 'light roast', especially in the non-specialty markets, tend to have one or more of the following problems: 1) underroasted (which leads to grassy/green flavors), 2) not actually roasted to 'light' (maybe more medium), 3) poor temperature control, as a result of trying to roast light (leading to 'baked' flavoring), 4) poor coffee selection for a lighter roast, leading to much more green/grassy flavoring as a result.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by johnea »

Shouldn't people who don't like coffee, just not drink coffee?

The article makes it seem like caffeine is an essential nutrient. Is this kid just addicted?

I drink an espresso or two each morning. I find drip coffee... uninteresting. If I travel, or am in any situation where I don't have easy access to espresso, I just don't drink coffee. It's not a big deal.

I do agree with the aversion to sodas... In addition to the sugar, they're packed full of other wonky ingredients.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by euroderf »

Dr_Birdbrain wrote: post #28
irrational wrote: post #12

Why not use caffeine pills? You get the caffeine jolt without the calories. Plus, they are far cheaper than buying drinks.

Coffee has longevity and health benefits that are not due to caffeine alone. It has so many antioxidants you can count it as a serving of vegetables. I tried caffeine pills in my misguided youth. They feel different, and one time I forgot I had already taken it and took a second—the resulting heart palpitations were some seriously scary stuff.

Heart palpitations AND tummy rot.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by euroderf »

chii wrote: post #167
jfengel wrote: post #25

I find that a substantial fraction of people who drink coffee don't like coffee. They combine it with milk and syrup and whipped cream, and it's really more of a hot milkshake. No shade intended. Drink what you like. But I suspect a lot of people would prefer a steamer (same thing minus the coffee).

the slight bitterness from coffee mixes well with sugar to create a more complex flavour than just pure sugar alone.

IME coffee is coffee and sugar is sugar and never the twain shall meet. Zero synergy.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #114
jamroom wrote: post #68

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My experience with people who "don't like the taste of coffee" usually has been that they don't like how bitter and strong the taste is, which is almost always tasting the "roast" instead of the bean. Single origin light roast is the way to go if you want a really good non-coffee tasting cup of coffee. My recommendation is central america single origin (Guatamala, Costa Rica, etc) - the beans from this region tend to…

I don't like the taste of coffee. I don't like coffee in chocolate (though I don't like chocolate much to begin with), I don't like Tiramisu, I loathe coffee-flavored jelly beans, I've tried light roasts & didn't like them, medium roasts & didn't like them, dark roasts & definitely didn't like them, and several varieties of bean and liked none. I just don't like coffee flavor .

It really is an acquired taste.

I used to be the same way. Although I liked the smell of coffee, I absolutely hated the taste. Then I met my wife, who would make a pot of coffee (and not "brown water" either) at 8PM and I guess I just got used to it. Now it's an everyday thing.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by rectang »

Kirby64 wrote: post #242
rectang wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure I’ve experienced “roast defects” at some point. However, I’ve tried a lot of light roasts — some of which I’ve liked quite a lot — and surely not all of them were afflicted with such defects. What I’m describing as a general character of light roasts (more present flavor components compared to dark roasts since they are less burned away), which I’m characterizing as “green” or “woodsy”, probably isn’t what y…

> You’re fixating on the vocabulary rather than what is being conveyed. You're conveying meaning with your vocabulary even if you don't mean to. If you don't have the proper words to describe it, that's fine. Like I said, some people even enjoy particular defects in coffee. For instance, growing defects known as 'quakers' have a particular peanuty taste. It's considered undesirable, but some people might like that. A…

Ok, you've convinced me. I hate coffee.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by ac29 »

lylejantzi3rd wrote: post #4

A radiation safety officer from UC Berkeley already invented coffee for people who hate coffee. He calls it The Black Blood of the Earth. A quarter of the sales are sent to his fixer who looks after the babushkas in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. https://shop.funraniumlabs.com/

Its good but its wildly expensive.

Its also pretty potent stuff, I describe more as coffee for people who love coffee, not hate it.

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by lylejantzi3rd »

ac29 wrote: post #248
lylejantzi3rd wrote: post #4

A radiation safety officer from UC Berkeley already invented coffee for people who hate coffee. He calls it The Black Blood of the Earth. A quarter of the sales are sent to his fixer who looks after the babushkas in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. https://shop.funraniumlabs.com/

Its good but its wildly expensive. Its also pretty potent stuff, I describe more as coffee for people who love coffee, not hate it.

It's expensive, but not wildly so. Yes, it's potent. If what you're looking for is a cup of coffee, you're supposed to dilute it with water.

https://www.funraniumlabs.com/how-to-consume/

Re: Coffee for people who don't like coffee

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Post by closewith »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #185
KingMob wrote: post #158

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The Aeropress is great, but makes too little coffee. One day I'll have to try the XL version.

Out of curiosity, what is "too little coffee" for you? I can get about 250ml out of it.

Many of us don't drink coffee alone. The charm of the aeropress wears off the ninth time you make coffee with it in a morning.
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