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From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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This is how I find out next.com returns a 301 to apple.com. Fascinating!

For a while a few years ago they had it misconfigured and you could browse apple.com at next.com -- so pages like next.com/ipad worked. https://web.archive.org/web/20130301092249/http://www.next.c...

It would be a cool tribute to redirect next.com to the Mac Studio product page, as the closet descendant of the NeXTcube. Similarly, Apple still has control of pasemi.com - if only Apple’s chip team had a similar webpage…

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i love this. A startup I was at during early COVID times got acquired into Hewlett Packard Enterprise, so we all became HPE employees with HPE addresses. There was a similar form there to request "ryancnelson"@hpe, etc... One of my co-workers got cute and asked for "root@hpe.com" .... And boy, there's a lot of cron jobs running at HP.

They must have learned from your experience. When we were acquired by HPE they did not let us choose and our director of engineering got an email address that misspelled his name... fixing it involved him being locked out of all systems while the people trying to fix it emailed someone else with a similar name about it. His advice for other team members in the same spot was "if you don't like your email address, do n…

Same story for me at a game studio bought by Microsoft. It was simply not worth the hassle. As an employee I still had to sit through the same customer support as anyone else, talking to some person at an Indian call center with a bad line. After some failed attempts I just gave up and lived with my misspelled address.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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I think he was all of those things, but also could be the opposite of those things, too. Humans are complex and when you already changed the course of history by 25 or whatever, you are going to be even more complex. I don’t idolize Steve Jobs but I do find him to contrast positively against other similar figures like Gates and Ellison. Low bars, I know. But I guess I wanted to defend that people can have a soft spot…

People are complex, with good and bad areas, which is precisely what makes cults of personality problematic. And the discourse around some people (Jobs in particular ) is waaaay more cultish than is healthy. And this particular anecdote is the poster child for it. 'Printing out and framing the response' as the daydream reaction to receiving that e-mail is wild, even with the caveats.

That still doesn’t imply that people cut him slack strictly because of profits received, which was my only point.

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i love this. A startup I was at during early COVID times got acquired into Hewlett Packard Enterprise, so we all became HPE employees with HPE addresses. There was a similar form there to request "ryancnelson"@hpe, etc... One of my co-workers got cute and asked for "root@hpe.com" .... And boy, there's a lot of cron jobs running at HP.

this reminds me when I was at a course from a big software company in the late 90s, and we had problems setting up the system at first because some executive in Germany had named his machine localhost.

How was that mess ever fixed?

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They must have learned from your experience. When we were acquired by HPE they did not let us choose and our director of engineering got an email address that misspelled his name... fixing it involved him being locked out of all systems while the people trying to fix it emailed someone else with a similar name about it. His advice for other team members in the same spot was "if you don't like your email address, do n…

That’s so Brazilian, in the sense of the film[1] not the country. There’s something of Bob Hoskins’ heating engineer in what you’ve described. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film)

I have a Brazilian (the country) email story.

This company had a rule where the mail was first name + last name initial. So, timc@company.com if you're Tim Cook. Naturally they ended up hiring a customer success person called "Ana Lopes".

She of course noticed on the first day and complained, but IT dragged their feet until some high-profile customer saw "reply to ANAL" in the automated ZenDesk email and send an angry email to the CEO.

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So Steve was against haptic feedback on the iPhone? I may have to turn it off in that case.

I never had an iPhone but I think I disabled all haptic feedback on my Android phones and tablets since forever. I find it very annoying. My phone vibrates only to signal messages and calls. BTW, I don't type on the keyboard, I swype so I have less need for feedbacks.

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Yup exactly. I got my retention bonus and 2 months pay and all that stuff without agreeing to anything, and they offered a little bit more to agree not to disparage them. I'm pretty chatty so decided it wasn't worth it ;)

Question is, how many zeros would it take to convince you otherwise.

As long as the first digit wasn't also a zero.

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On October 25, 1988, I gave Steve Jobs a demo of pie menus, NeWS, UniPress Emacs and HyperTIES at the Educom conference in Washington DC. His reaction was to jump up and down, point at the screen, and yell “That sucks! That sucks! Wow, that’s neat! That sucks!”

I tried explaining how we’d performed an experiment proving pie menus were faster than linear menus, but he insisted the liner menus in NeXT Step were the best possible menus ever.

When I explained to him how flexible NeWS was, he told me "I don't need flexibility -- I got my window system right the first time!"

But who was I to rain on his parade, two weeks after the first release of NeXT Step 0.8? He just wasn't in the mood to be told that he could have a better user interface.

So I gave him one of the a "NeRD" buttons I'd made for NeWS NeRDs, which he appreciated.

Up to that time, NeXT was the most hyped piece of vaporware ever, and doubters were wearing t-shirts saying “NeVR Step”!

Even after he went back to Apple, Steve Jobs never took a bite of Apple Pie Menus, the forbidden fruit. There’s no accounting for taste!

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In the late 90s I worked for a now defunct Australian electronics retailer, who were also a well-known AS/400 shop. Our stock reports etc would come via email from qsecofr@ .com.au. The QSECOFR (Security Officer) user is effectively root on OS/400. I would've thought they would run these jobs as some other user, but apparently not.

Dick Smith?

Reminds me of that public speaker announcement asking (in American English) a Mr. Peter File to please report to the service desk.

(Not from "Brazil" the film, but Monty Python-originating regardless.)

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