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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by leptons »

jackcooper wrote: post #147
dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

Summary of the proposed solutions to block YouTube Shorts: -Enhancer for YouTube extension (Firefox) — mopsi -Unhook extension (Chrome/Firefox) — jabroni_salad, kelvinjps10 -YouTube-shorts block add-on — timbit42 -ReVanced for mobile — kelvinjps10 -Shorts filter list in Brave browser (works on mobile) — my personal favorite

None of these workarounds are available on Chromecast, which is where I do almost all of my Youtube watching.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by jsheard »

jmb99 wrote: post #225
jsheard wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They clearly need to conserve bandwidth for the most important assets - the 12 whole megabytes of Javascript.

Genuine question. I’m assuming that, since YouTube is owned by one of the largest tech companies in the world that they’ve optimized their delivered JS to only what is necessary to run the page. What on the YouTube home page could possibly require 12MB of JS alone? Assuming 60 characters per line, that’s 200k lines of code? Obviously ballpark and LoC != complexity, but that seems absurd to me.

Fun fact: Googles own web performance team recommends avoiding YouTube embeds because they're so obscenely bloated. Placing their on a page will pull in about 4MB of assets, most of which is Javascript, even if the user never plays the video.

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/lighthouse/performance/thi...

YouTubes frontend people just don't care about bloat, even when other Googlers are yelling at them to cut it out.

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Post by edm0nd »

geerlingguy wrote: post #128
codedokode wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I notice that many short videos seem to be simply cuts from longer videos posted to promote them. So they were not made for short video section and just try to misuse short videos to increase long video visibility.

There is now a _huge_ industry of solo editors who spam YouTubers advertising "increasing revenue by re-using the content you already made!" And 98% of it is just grabbing popular snippets of long form videos, cropping them slightly, and overlaying some bubbly animated text (or worse, just closed captions but with a bright font). It's almost as annoying as the deluge of people who email and say "we can auto-translate…

Yeah there are even platforms that simply let you upload a long form video and it will use "AI" to churn out 5-10 short form videos from it.

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Post by undersuit »

dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

I want Shorts to format properly on my 1440x2560 screen. All the interaction controls on hidden off the side of the screen. Still have black bars on the left and right of the video too.

And also yes, I want long form and short form videos to be separated, when I'm scrolling through results 6 at a time(minus 1-2 ads) to queue the shorts really mess up the flow.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by alpaca128 »

On the topic of A/B testing, it would be really neat if there was a way to opt out of it.

I cannot remember a single time in the last 5+ years when the website wasn't broken in some way. Right now the UI has at least 5 separate bugs and a Premium feature of the iPad app has 5 distinct bugs which are also so obvious that it's clear YT doesn't even test their paid version at all.

YouTube is the best argument against opt-out (or forced) telemetry in apps.

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Post by insin »

polotics wrote: post #191
dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

create a new folder, put two files there: manifest.json containing: { "manifest_version": 3, "name": "Hide YouTube Shorts", "version": "1.0", "description": "Hides YouTube Shorts", "content_scripts": [ { "matches": [" ://www.youtube.com/ "], "js": ["content.js"] } ] } and a file named content.js containing: function hideShorts() { const shorts = document.querySelectorAll('ytd-rich-shelf-renderer[is-shorts]'); shorts.…

Here's a more comprehensive BYO Shorts-hiding extension which uses CSS instead of running JavaScript every time an element is added or removed anywhere in the DOM, and also supports the mobile version (CSS selectors are extracted from the https://soitis.dev/control-panel-for-youtube Hide Shorts feature)

https://gist.github.com/insin/ef93c7d87b1f97f1c9411e6128d520...

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by quantike »

One other point of annoyance with the new UI is that the videos actually aren't aligned vertically.

I really dislike auto-play so I have always strategically rested my cursor in between the columns of video. Now, as I scroll, my cursor will end up within a column that is misaligned and start autoplay. The worst!

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by barbazoo »

AlienRobot wrote: post #146
dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

I go to TikTok, shorts. I go to Youtube, shorts. I go to Instagram, shorts. I go to Facebook, shorts. I go to Imgur, shorts. I go to Pinterest, no shorts because it only plays 1 video per screen, but on mobile the screen is smaller so, shorts. I go to Reddit, shorts. I go to Bluesky, shorts. I don't go to Twitter. Tumblr is probably the only social media that isn't filled with vertical videos and that has an algorith…

I go to Old Navy, shorts.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by dang »

jeffbee wrote: post #56
InMice wrote: post #49

Thank you for writing this post! I opened youtube a few days ago to this as well. On a 24" 1440p monitor its ridiculous. It's incomprehensible there's a UI/UX team that gets paid millions of dollars per year and the result is changes like this. Thank you again for writing this post. After searching it seems like they've been "testing" this in segments for a while now. As a result I installed the "Control Panel for Yo…

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Could I implore you to please stop breaking the site guidelines? I don't have the energy to even list all the times we've asked you already.

I don't want to ban you, but you're making it increasingly difficult not to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by nvarsj »

I still don't know how to "go back" after viewing a video on the mobile app. It's so confusing. I just keep swiping stuff and eventually it works.

The google maps app has similar bizareness.

I guess somehow this all makes G more money, but it sure is painful as a consumer.

I'd pay money for a good hand-crafted (non a/b tested) experience. Competition should be the true a/b test :).

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