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Post by amadeuspagel »

shipscode wrote: post #126

The take on 4chan on here is super intriguing. I always felt that the current social media/doomscroll/memesharing landscape which has become so common worldwide is indiscernable and in some ways worse than 4chan. It feels like 4chan left it's homepage and went worldwide sometime in the early 2010s when iPhone-style phone use became more commonplace. I remember that 4chan users had more honor than users on the interne…

"Not your personal army" goes father then not doxxing. It's a rejection of any attempt to imagine a community of strangers, united by hatred of a scapegoat.

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Post by pjc50 »

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #133
properpopper wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For users who aren't familiar with 4chan - this post describes only one board - /pol/, where you can find hateful posts about every race and religion. 4chan have 30+ boards in total

To add context, every male in my high school went on that site. Pol was just a place crazy people posted. We used to laugh and read eachother dumb copypastas at lunch with gorgonzola cheese rhymes and bad puns. The average 15yo boy have enough mental hygiene to know everything you read online is false. The website is not a nazi factory.

Perhaps the average one does, but some get sucked in, and if there's no Nazi factory where are all the nazis coming from?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx4wlynjw5o

How many mass shooters had obvious 4chan radicalization roots? Christchurch definitely.

> everything you read online is false

In its own way, this is also poisonous. It enables holocaust denialists and anti-vaxxers: after all, vaccines and holocaust memorials are on the mainstream internet, so they must be false, right?

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Post by johnnyjeans »

happytoexplain wrote: post #191
CamelCaseName wrote: post #2

If you lamented the disappearance of the "old internet", well, this was a part of it, and now it may be gone too. The title is also a fair bit understated. They're leaking the moderators home addresses and work contact info (for admins, who are(were?) paid moderators)

Was part of it. As somebody who has been trapped there since 2004, I'd say it evolved into a part of the normal internet between 2010 and 2016 (i.e. it had already fully transformed before Trump's first term), where "normal internet" means being infested with uncle-on-Facebook-tier political posts, "jokes" where the punchline is "I hate my political enemies", etc. Creative irreverence was replaced with regular childi…

Incredibly spot-on and well-put.

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Post by _345 »

johnnyjeans wrote: post #179
flmontpetit wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It used to be a diverse place without much to tie all the boards and users together save for a shared commitment to counter-culture. Then GamerGate and Donald Trump happened. "Every board is /pol/" was one of the most frequent replies you would see for a while until all the halfway decent people left. /g/ is where I and a lot of people learned about FOSS advocacy and now it's just gamer hardware and transphobia.

/g/ genuinely was one of the worst boards on the website, but there were a handful of lurkers who made good posts in some of the general threads. the site as a whole was still was a diverse place up until yesterday, with only a few boards being unusably bad, and it was getting increasingly better. it's a bit sad really. zero-barrier to entry, no login gates, no accounts, and traffic was so high that it moved really f…

ive always wondered, is there a way to use technology on a board style wesbite to enforce a higher quality culture? i toyed with the idea of requiring an org email similar to Blind except it could be a school email too, the hope being that after verification you are fully anon still just now with write privileges and that it would somehow lead to better quality discussions and engagements

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Post by jtvjan »

desumeku wrote: post #180
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. That's probably why a lot of websites use moderation to avoid having one section of it turn into a cesspit of every -ism you can imagine, up to and including fascism, because once you have a section of your website that is openly coordinating the pushing of fascism on society, everyone kinda forgets about the diverse and interesting other things it might…

4chan is more moderated than you'd imagine.

this might be conspirational thinking, but i don't think it's an accident that the site came out like this. yes, there's moderation, but the moderators are explicitly told to go easy on moderating racism[1]. it feels like once that kind of stuff isn't punished, it starts to snowball a change in the attitudes of the site as a whole.

that's not to say stringent moderation doesn't make a site less welcoming, though. it's about choosing what's the lesser evil to you, i guess.

[1]: https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-helped-turn-4cha...

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Post by ArinaS »

doublerabbit wrote: post #221
ArinaS wrote: post #194

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> " But if you desire to create your own site for social media the uphill battle is so great regulated in their honour, it's not possible. " Fediverse exists quite successfully.

You mean an open-twitter clone that caters to a very niche set of individuals? A complex system to work with. I hate the whole gimmick of 150 character messages. That's not independent like the web was once. Discord makes you pay to upload videos, sounds and those were all existing on MSN, Yahoo, A!M for free. Everyone at my school knew of NewsGrounds, mySpace, BeBo, LiveJournal. Me and my friends had hosted ProBoard…

> "You mean an open-twitter clone that caters to a very niche set of individuals?"

It's not just one instance and not even one frontend existing for what can be described as "fediverse". Decentralization is the whole point.

> "a very niche set of individuals?"

Everything depends on the instance you're using. Some of them, like mastodon.social, are very active, others are not.

> "I hate the whole gimmick of 150 character messages"

Find a better instance. On the one I use it's 2k characters limit.

> "That's not independent web like it was."

Yes, because it's a whole new level of independence. NewGrounds, Myspace and everything you mentioned are centralized platforms, which is practically vendor lock-in, because you're dependent on just one vendor for everything you do on these platforms, while on fediverse, you aren't. Instances are completely (except for showing posts from one another) independent from each other - there's no central "authority" controlling all of them like there would be on a centralized platform. Thousands of them exist for every frontend imaginable, and you can create one yourself.

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Post by azernik »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #171
DaSHacka wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would've taken you less time to find the 'sinister' content yourself than leave this sprawling reply To your point: It's more likely than not real, it contains configs for the entire site.

Well, so you say, but every single news website that I can find willing to say something on the matter is either The Daily Mail and similar things that also say they based their information on leaks on “social media rumors” or more reputable websites that also say it's a rumor that there's a leak. One would assume if it be so easily found and I'm so incompetent that these news websites could've found it themselves an…

If you're looking for a link to the results of illegal hacking, then I humbly suggest that aboveboard news sites are not the place to look.

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Post by ethbr1 »

cwmma wrote: post #225
sgarland wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> bodybuilding.com Obligatory post about the dumbest argument to ever be had online [0]. It’s so good, the Wikipedia entry [1] has a section devoted to it. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20240123134202/https://forum.bod... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding.com

For the record this is an example of the "Fencepost error" where the last item in a range gets double counted as the first item in the next range and is incredibly common in dyscalculia (the math version of dyslexia) as people will have "visual number lines" in their head that cover ranges of numbers but the ends get double counted, so there will be a 10-20 number line then a 20-30 number line. I suspect TheJosh had…

As the quip goes, there are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.

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Post by ashleyn »

greazy wrote: post #134

4chan is a reflection of the depraved, extreme side of humanity. Twitter has taken on the mantle of 'asshole of the internet', but I think the rotten apples post in both. 4chan is oddly accepting of gay and trans people. I've seen gay and trans porn side by side with bbc and bwc porn posts. Strange to see racist trans porn lovers. I like 4chan for the minor boards, not /pol/ or /b/. But /boardgames/ and /dyi/ and /in…

Neither site is a den of repute but it's notable that I can still say the word "cisgender" on 4chan, or openly insult moot and call him whatever I want without being banned for it (while mainstream sites select who is protected from harassment and who isn't, either along political lines or who owns the site).
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