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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by windward »

dullcrisp wrote: post #124
sudomateo wrote: post #116

> But I was also immediately ripped away from my calendar, docs, code, and more. Layoffs are never easy. I've been through a few myself and it really takes the wind out of your sails. That being said, this sentence made me pause a bit. None of these things mentioned are actually yours. They are the property of Google. One thing that helped me immensely in my career is understanding that my relationship with a company…

I think their point was that they were told they could look for another internal role, but at the same time had their access revoked, which sends a very mixed message.

It's because the message isn't for OP, it's for the people who are left.

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Post by windward »

dailykoder wrote: post #237

> Just like that. These statements always catch me a bit off-guard. Is there no such thing as a cancelation period in the US? When my employer wants to kick me out, he needs a good reason for that and I'd still be paid for 3 months. Which is often even longer, depending on how long you belong to a company. Edit: I'm in germany

In my experience, it doesn't matter anyway. You can be paid to be sat at home and, while the worry of finances is kicked down the road, the big dark questions come home to roost very quickly.

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Post by wiseowise »

> I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp.

Love sudden realization.

I wonder how many people within companies think “well, they are a cog, but I’m certainly not” just to be left on a road soon after.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by nsm1 »

dumbledoren wrote: post #10

These megacorps will have so much fun in the upcoming recession. They turned public opinion against them through sociopathic profiteering and then mass layoffs. When the cows come home it won't be fun and games like before.

> sociopathic profiteering

That "sociopathic" profiteering funds the 401(k), IRAs, and pension plans of tens of millions of Americans. God forbid these companies be run for the collective benefit of all shareholders (including special ed teachers, utility workers, and airline mechanics) and not just the lottery winners who scored the high-paying jobs at these companies.

> mass layoffs

The "Day in the Life" videos that made the rounds on TikTok sapped the general public of whatever sympathy they may have otherwise had for the FANMAGers getting sacked from their $100-300k jobs.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by pclmulqdq »

watwut wrote: post #197
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not universal though. My dad's company was bought up by a foreign investor, shrunk over multiple reorganizations from its peak of ~500 people in the 70's or 80's down to a skeleton crew of ~50. They weren't fired, they were told the company was going bankrupt and needed to be emptied out. People who worked there for 40+ years were basically given a few months' pay if that and a "good luck". There's a formula f…

> People who worked there for 40+ years were basically given a few months' pay Those few months pay thing is the key difference. That is legally mandated.

You also get a few months pay in the US unless the company is truly broke.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by wiseowise »

apexalpha wrote: post #149
abdj8 wrote: post #110

Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hou…

Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc... Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

> Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else.

As someone from Europe, I’ve never experienced US salaries. Go figure.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by [deleted] »

h4ckaerman wrote: post #45

> Googler... Whole things reads like someone leaving a cult. It's ok to be sad about leaving a job but your identity shouldn't be so tied up in it that you're crying in a blog post online. We all lose jobs and we all get on with it. Obviously they're talented and will land fine somewhere. I'm not trying to be mean but it's bad that a person can get upset to this point around a job. The corp isn't caring.

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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by Freak_NL »

knorker wrote: post #208
AndyKelley wrote: post #131

> I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp. Yes, you were. Next time, please choose a company that contributes to society rather than shoving ads in everyone's faces.

Ironically you're statistically very likely to be writing this comment in a browser based on chrome. And Chrome really helped save us from an Internet "embraced and extended" by Microsoft. We were heading for Microsoft succeeding in their (not first) attempt at owning the Internet.

Someone extremely critical of Google is likely to not just use Firefox? That doesn't sound statistically likely.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by 2-3-7-43-1807 »

wiseowise wrote: post #243

> I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp. Love sudden realization. I wonder how many people within companies think “well, they are a cog, but I’m certainly not” just to be left on a road soon after.

the post oozes narcissism. and he even seems to think he contributed to the health of the internet by working at chrome.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Post by jansan »

ryandrake wrote: post #184
ein0p wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP spent several years at Google. Kids or no kids, if they managed their finances well, they have a lot of latitude wrt next moves.

Not necessarily. Nobody on HN knows OP’s finances. He might have extended family relying on him. He might have crippling student debt. He might have expensive health problems. Do you know? I don’t. Also, not all Google employees make great money. People act as though you work there for 5 years and that automatically means you’re off to buy your third house in Monaco. Point is, he might “manage his finances well” and…

You may be correct in general, but in this particular case I do not see how Adam should have any difficulties in finding a very good paying job at another company.
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