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Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by simonask »

goblin89 wrote: post #148
jjtheblunt wrote: post #108

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If you're an artist who draws, I think they're serious computing devices.

An iPad is an interesting device. It has many uses where it is indispensable, but most of them are unknown to most people. I often see a sound engineer with an iPad on music gigs. The form factor allows you to walk around the room and adjust the sound easily to tame resonances and such. It’s not so good for typing text or programming, but where it makes sense to have a portable slab of screen that works reliably ther…

Lots of musicians use iPads for their sheet music. Vastly superior to carrying around several kilograms of paper, and you can use head gestures to turn pages.

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Post by walterbell »

signal11 wrote: post #193
onceler wrote: post #120

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Except in this metaphor, the "ebike" has en engine as powerful as a new "landcruiser", and attachment points that could allow quickly/easily adding extra seating or cargo capacity. That such a thing seems absurd illustrates how poorly the metaphor fits. The only reason that "iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work" is because Apple chooses to limit them. I have a laptop which I only rarely use as a l…

They’re both called Pro (iPad Pro and MacBook Pro) but thermals, RAM, etc are different. I think it’s fair to say an iPad Pro and a MacBook Air should be capable of similar-ish things, and that iPadOS could have way more “power” features. Eg a terminal app to start with. But I’m not sure iPad Pros can really replace MacBook Pros.

> e.g. a terminal app to start with

If the rumored convergence of Android and ChromeOS happens soon on Chromebooks, including support for Debian Linux terminal VM, then iPads will finally have real competition from touch-screen Chromebooks with both desktop & mobile UX.

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Post by pjmlp »

armada651 wrote: post #231
pjmlp wrote: post #195

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Most of the time people aren't stupid, if they care about where they are spending their money they aren't buying devices on the split of a second and complaining later.

People aren't stupid but there is no way to escape this bussiness model unless you go to PC. And the PC is only begrudgingly still an open platform. If something is ever going to successfully replace the PC it will be a walled garden as well. I am appalled by how easily people dismiss the importance of open platforms as insecure and inconvenient. How will people ever learn technical skills if all the technology they…

They buy Android, Windows, Jolla, Pinephone,.....

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #211
Zardoz84 wrote: post #175

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Windows 10/11 it's a shit show. The last good Windows was 8.1. And the last great Windows was 7.

No; the last great Windows was XP. 7 started the regression in earnest, especially in the GUI.

The GUI in 7 was so much better than anything before or since.

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Post by pjmlp »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #110
pjmlp wrote: post #33

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Personally I rather buy hardware fit for purpose.

The hardware is fit for purpose. That's what makes the situation frustrating. It's a software lock.

That wasn't what it was being sold for, so no it isn't.

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Post by p0w3n3d »

walterbell wrote: post #237
p0w3n3d wrote: post #223

I dub the distinction between a tablet and a laptop fake. Tbh they are running the same hardware. I started with Android and first things I did on my phones was to install terminal and ssh. Later it became impossible, because of the changes that were being imposed by Google ("for the sake of my safety"). What I valued Android over IOS was to have access to my files (like DVD-dumped futurama) that I could watch on the…

> Android over IOS.. access to my files Apple eventually surrendered and exposed a file system via the "Files" app, but it's woefully neglected. Google is adding Debian Linux VM to Android, hopefully Apple will come to their senses and re-enable VMs on iOS, even if it's buried in Accessibility settings to avoid scaring non-technical users. Until then, iOS users have iSH (syscall emulation) CLI to slowly run Alpine Li…

they used to find it based on screen resolution (DPI) -> calculating size

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Post by basisword »

This was all over the place. The article itself seemingly bares no relation to the headline. Replacing your laptop with a tablet and then complaining that the tablet cannot do the same things as the laptop was a slightly interesting take in 2010. The iPad has now been around for 15 years. A tech journalist being surprised it doesn't have a terminal with root access at this point is baffling.

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Post by basisword »

davemp wrote: post #133
onceler wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except in this metaphor, the "ebike" has en engine as powerful as a new "landcruiser", and attachment points that could allow quickly/easily adding extra seating or cargo capacity. That such a thing seems absurd illustrates how poorly the metaphor fits. The only reason that "iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work" is because Apple chooses to limit them. I have a laptop which I only rarely use as a l…

Let’s not pretend that Apple could come up with some sort of dual windowing system (or just dual boot) scheme. We’re not limited by drive space anymore. They don’t because it would hurt macbook sales.

Do you mean dual-booting macOS and iOS? If so, they probably don't because it would work like crap. The tablet is a touch based device and macOS isn't optimised for touch. Unless they want to release something very janky they'd need to invest a lot of time making macOS more touch-optimised and I think the number of people that would care about that or use it is miniscule. The tablet and laptop are completely different form factors and have completely different use cases. Making both devices capable of doing the same things would just unnecessarily compromise the design of both.

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Post by basisword »

skc wrote: post #235

Remember Jobs coining the phrase "Post PC era". Good times. There was a period of about two, maybe three years where you saw nothing but tablets outdoors. Now it's very rare for me to see someone tapping away at an iPad out in the wild, all I see are laptops.

I know a lot of people who don't own laptops/desktops at all. None in their household. They simply use their phone for everything and a few have tablets, especially the people with kids. If you go to a holiday resort and go for dinner you'll find that 90% of the kids in that place have a tablet with them. If you take "PC" as meaning "Personal Computer" I think Jobs was right. People still need a 'real' computer for work but personal computing for the majority of people is simply content consumption, ordering stuff on the web, and communicating with people and they can do all that easily on a phone or tablet.

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Post by dagw »

matwood wrote: post #162
mullingitover wrote: post #104

"My decade-old and very well-travelled Toyota Land Cruiser finally died, and I hoped my new-ish ebike could replace it." How that article sounds. I don't care how fancy they make them, iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work.

> iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work At the risk of invoking no true Scotsman, I think you need to define 'real' work.

According the author of the article he seems to consider 'real' work is any work the requires "terminal windows, root access, and the ability to type "python" to get into a REPL".
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