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Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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For me peak internet was mid 2000s StumbleUpon. Finding random sites at the click of a button lightly sorted by theme. One major difference was people weren’t competing to get the most views. Of course monetized sites wanted more but today’s feeds create a sort of homogeneity I find less interesting because people are trying to appease an algorithm not viewers.

Try https://wiby.me/surprise A lot of the sites there are pre-2020 era but some weird and wonderful stuff!

This is awesome thank you!

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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I agree with you almost completely. I never used YT as a content source until a few years ago - I’d never open the app and only watch videos linked or embedded / looking up a specific how to video. Now it’s different though. I never go to my subscription feed - the front page algo keeps me up to date on any new content from people I want to see updates on. I’ve noticed too it almost has a “shadow subscription” where…

Youtube disrespects any person that is multilingual. They shove AI translations into our faces because the content creator is responsible for disabling it not the user. Instead of German videos I get German videos with English AI audio. I keep getting videos from the same game I always ignore or say not interested on my front page. Youtube wants my money. They will never get my money when they come up with things lik…

Paying them money removes all ads though, scammy or not. And they just announced their lower priced tier, although I think not all genres are ad-free.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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I agree with you almost completely. I never used YT as a content source until a few years ago - I’d never open the app and only watch videos linked or embedded / looking up a specific how to video. Now it’s different though. I never go to my subscription feed - the front page algo keeps me up to date on any new content from people I want to see updates on. I’ve noticed too it almost has a “shadow subscription” where…

> Watch a few too many Minecraft videos or car repair and soon you start seeing more and more In my experience it's "watch one video outside of your recommendations and then half your next set of recommendations will be related to that". I'm scared to click on anything I'm not already subscribed to for fear of trashing the home page.

You can delete things from your watch history to clean up the algo. If I ever let a TV auto play for too long or have kids over watching things I go though and delete things I think will negatively affect the algo.

I feel like clicking a video and immediately clicking off is also a negative signal they use but YMMV.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Youtube disrespects any person that is multilingual. They shove AI translations into our faces because the content creator is responsible for disabling it not the user. Instead of German videos I get German videos with English AI audio. I keep getting videos from the same game I always ignore or say not interested on my front page. Youtube wants my money. They will never get my money when they come up with things lik…

Paying them money removes all ads though, scammy or not. And they just announced their lower priced tier, although I think not all genres are ad-free.

But most of the channels I'm interested in have "in video" ads (ads put there by the creator rather than Youtube, I don't know the industry terminology) that remain even if you pay for Youtube Premium.

I wish Premium provided some way for me to predict how many of these kinds of ads are in a video I am considering watching (e.g., by requiring the creator to tell YT how many there are and imposing consequences on creators that lie) but YT does not.

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You can’t, however stop it from suggestion huge blocks of shorts or crappy free to play games.

You somehow must be able to, as everyone I know has feeds full of that sort of thing, and I've never seen even one short or game on my youtube home page.

Nope. You specifically can't disable shorts, no matter how much you want to - so much that YouTube Revanced has this feature.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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good, they should sprinkle socialist values in. what's the other option, passive acceptance of capitalist exploitation? people need to be educated.

You may want to do some basic background reading on what socialism actually is. People in the US tend to think it refers to things that are actually mixed economies or primarily market economies with strong social guarantees. Think things like the Nordic model or the European model. Mixed economies with social welfare guarantees are mainstream economics. Actual socialism in the style practiced in reality by countries…

>People in the US tend to think it refers to things that are actually mixed economies or primarily market economies with strong social guarantees. Think things like the Nordic model or the European model...

Yes. This is what people in the US mean when they say socialism in general conversation. They don't mean pure Socialism as Marx talked about it. Similarly when people say the US is a democracy, we know they don't mean it's an actual pure Democracy where everyone votes on every issue.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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You may want to do some basic background reading on what socialism actually is. People in the US tend to think it refers to things that are actually mixed economies or primarily market economies with strong social guarantees. Think things like the Nordic model or the European model. Mixed economies with social welfare guarantees are mainstream economics. Actual socialism in the style practiced in reality by countries…

>People in the US tend to think it refers to things that are actually mixed economies or primarily market economies with strong social guarantees. Think things like the Nordic model or the European model... Yes. This is what people in the US mean when they say socialism in general conversation. They don't mean pure Socialism as Marx talked about it. Similarly when people say the US is a democracy, we know they don't…

Yes with the pedantic caveat that those aren't similar in the sense that one is a common confusion and the other is correct.

The Nordic model is the sort of economy and political structure that the 19th century socialists explicitly reacted against and rejected. It's a representation of mainstream liberal democratic theory not of socialism.

On the other hand democracy was always understood to be representative because you can't make every decision by plebiscite.

It has to do with being accurate rather than being "pure".

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Yes you can, with something like uBlock Origin, or even a simple stylesheet override.

I tried this for games and shorts, but something about their HTML changes enough that they keep reappearing. I absolutely despise shorts

Yeah they tweak the HTML enough that static stylesheet overrides can become outdated real quick. Very annoying. It's been a while since I looked, but there probably is some uBlock Origin filter list that'll handle this and will stay fairly up-to-date.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Yes you can, with something like uBlock Origin, or even a simple stylesheet override.

If you have to go outside of youtube you modify its behavior, that doesn't really qualify as "you can make it stop". That's like saying you can make someone stop shooting you by wearing a Kevlar vest.

What a silly comparison.
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