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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

I typically like Elon about 70% of the time, but I need to agree here. I don't quite understand how he suddenly got so much influence.

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

> He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way. Using your "enormous amount of wealth" as a weapon means you'll be frittering away that wealth very quickly. Especially since others will be inclined to take the other side of the bet as soon as they catch on to it happening.

I imagine that's why he's pivoted to using other peoples' wealth.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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ChatGPT is an extremely successful consumer product. Looking at Search traffic alone indicates they clearly have large brand value. Usage doesn't just depend on just benchmarks for most consumers.

There's large brand value, and then there's $300B brand value. Without a moat, it's hard to argue OpenAI's value is that high.

OpenAI's real moat is all in their know-how about developing LLM architectures and training them. That stuff can be expected to be very hard to replicate, no matter how hard anyone tries. The best case for OpenAI is actually if the DeepSeek R1 improvements are genuine, and OpenAI can adopt them to make their upcoming models even more capable than they would be otherwise.

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I typically like Elon about 70% of the time, but I need to agree here. I don't quite understand how he suddenly got so much influence.

I liked Elon 90% of the time 5 years ago. Now honestly I don’t want him to build a whites only mars base.

> Now honestly I don’t want him to build a whites only mars base.

I do because the Earth would be rid of him and we could maybe have at least 1 slow news day.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Sam’s reply on twitter[0] no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want [0] https://x.com/sama/status/1889059531625464090 ?

Sam gives off incredibly strong “pride cometh before the fall” energy.

Next: Trumps blasts OpenAI as "un-American" and DOJ opens an investigation into "improper x". Investors get nervous given Trump's unpredictability, share price drops. Elon et al get it for half price. Nice little scam.

(Not that I would feel bad. Altman can crash and burn and the world would be better off.)

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Reading the other comments in this Twitter thread it seems like it's gotten much worse than in the years before. It's seems so much more political and radicalized now.

> It's seems so much more political and radicalized now. It's more politicized.. now ? More politicized than when literal politicians and three letter agencies were determining what should and shouldn't trend? How can anyone say that?

Is anti-confirmation bias a thing? More likely to notice politics when it is not your own politics.
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