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Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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In what respects?

He is known to be a womanizer and to have used his fame to sleep with women, and may have fathered some illegitimate children. But the most damning is that apparently the FBI has an audio recording of him laughing and even giving encouragement while another man rapes a woman in a hotel room.

Why didn't the police proceed with criminal charges?

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Judge for yourself: > the correct figure now is about 3,600 documents in the collection of 320,000 documents still contain redactions. That might mean we might have most of the document except for a sentence, a word, a name. In other cases, you know, several pages or, you know, I don't think there's any document that's withheld in its entirety. But, you know, it's still a lot of records. The bulk of those are CIA rec…

Sounds like that person knows very little and wants to sound important for a podcast. Security clearances are taken very seriously, you can't just spitball about classified things you've seen. My dad had classified knowledge from his time in the air force, and he wouldn't even discuss the category of information let alone give an overview of the contents, 50 years onward

Well, these records are special because of an act. Just because a President proactively blocked release does not promote them to a classification. But Mark Zaid on that podcast is a lawyer who specializes in people’s classification. There are many, many more people less qualified than him who are trying to sound important in this domain, like Roger Stone.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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The remaining 1% is almost certainly where the good stuff is.

And if it turns out that there isn't anything interesting in that 1%, will you abandon this heuristic, and be more ready to accept that maybe the mundane explanation of 'they were kept classified because the people involved are still alive' is the norm for stuff like this?

This is the big question. I think Pompeo told Trump that the remaining 1% includes the names of US spies inside Havana and Moscow. How would you ensure their descendants are protected?

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I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

> I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. you probably also think that mk ultra is a conspiracy theory.

It was a conspiracy.

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Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

The released files have redactions for this reason. Why couldn't the names be redacted in the remaining? Doesn't pass the smell test.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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post #63

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Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

> I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy.

Are the Dulles still alive ?

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I am sure it makes some TLA look bad. I fully expect to not have everything released.

It depends on how bad it is. For example, if it turned out that a Secret Service officer fired a stray round that hit the President then I don't think we're going to see that made public ever.

I love that one, but IIRC all the serious inquiries into it did not deem it credible. Great out-of-the-box thinking though!

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This is a snide, low-effort comment that didn't have the bare minimum of effort put into it to research whether or not its core premise was correct, and actively degrades the quality of discourse on HN. It would have taken thirty seconds to Google "President Trump administration priorities" and come up with https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/01/pres... The efficacy or utility of those priorities doe…

i very much dislike that anytime i see a comment on HN that isn't a wall of text arguing with someone, then the police arrive to tell them they're not allowed to participate in that way i hate the wall of text on this site. i hate how some people feel entitled to tell others their remarks aren't welcome. it truly takes away from this site to see the police show up on almost every single thread.

> i very much dislike that anytime i see a comment on HN that isn't a wall of text arguing with someone, then the police arrive to tell them they're not allowed to participate in that way

You either did not read my comment, intentionally and maliciously lied about what it said, or accidentally responded to the wrong comment, because it's extremely clear that I never said anything remotely like "you're not allowed to post anything except a wall of text arguing with someone".

> i hate the wall of text on this site.

Then go somewhere else. Hacker News is explicitly for intellectual curiosity, which involves thinking, which involves writing[1][2]. If you don't want to think, then this is not the place for you.

> i hate how some people feel entitled to tell others their remarks aren't welcome.

Your remarks are not welcome if you're going to violate the guidelines and engage in political flamewars. Just like in real life, there are things you can't or shouldn't say. That shouldn't be a foreign concept.

> it truly takes away from this site to see the police show up on almost every single thread.

If the "police" are those calling out violations of the guidelines - you're factually incorrect. The guidelines add to the site, because they're crafted in a way to allow intellectual discussion. Comments such as yours, and the grandparent comment, take away from the discussion by pushing aside curious thought and replacing it with emotional outburst and base instinct.

Notice that you didn't make a single logical point in your comment, nor did you inform or enlighten me or satisfy my intellectual curiosity - you just spoke about your feelings and your hatred. Why would I go to HN when I can read that on Twitter or Bluesky?

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Somewhat related: if somebody is interested in King's story in more depth, I can really recommend Jonathan Eig's book from 2023, titled "King: A Life". Amongst many other resources, he has used the (back then) recently released FBI files about King. He did a really stellar job of portraying MLK not just as a legend, but also as a human being.
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