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US bill proposes jail time for people who download DeepSeek

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You get less jail time for an insurrection aimed at overthrowing a free and fair election and beating the shit out of cops while doing so.

Truly, what do you even do as the CCP or some other party that would like to spread anti-American propaganda? Literally just point to the actual, factual state of this country and tell me it isn't a rolling joke.

The Republican party could pull a 180 and stop instituting policies that prove CCP anti-American propoganda correct, and pass universal health care, free education, civil rights, and all those other socialist freedom crushing commie pinko ideologies.

Re: US bill proposes jail time for people who download DeepSeek

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Guess what I, a person who mere minutes ago had little interest in downloading DeepSeek, am doing right now? Paging Ms. Streisand…

What is a shell one-liner that downloads DeepSeek ?

AstonJ explained on DevTalk [1] how to download and run DeepSeek using LM Studio.

[1] https://forum.devtalk.com/t/how-to-run-deepseek-on-your-mac-...

Re: US bill proposes jail time for people who download DeepSeek

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Hopefully, yes. Considering the situation in Germany, Scholz was Biden's errand boy, the prospective new chancellor Merz has worked at Blackrock, even the Germany-first party AfD is led by Weidel, who is ex Goldman Sachs. In Italy, the purportedly nationalist Meloni has caved in on all issues during the Biden administration and is now courting Trump. There needs to be a new generation of politicians who remember the…

So russia deliberately mabipulate energy prices, plans for years to invade their neighbor with purpose of annexation them and somehow it's US fault. Lol. US have many faults and I would surely appreciate bigger independence for Europe. That's a fact. But the rest is just made up nonsense. I wonder why your account was created only for this post, have one comment and is under two weeks old. Comrade gopnik.

Another one of the 1.3 million Ukrainians in Germany, 250000 of whom are evading military service. All of them collect social security, live in relative comfort, take our apartments and lecture us if our opinions are not approved by the U.S. State Department, Biden edition.

You do know that Trump admitted that the invasion was provoked by NATO?

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Other than intellectual property concerns and some obtuse arguments about the model inciting others to break the law (which isn’t specific to China anyway), I’d be really curious what good arguments can be made about how it isn’t protected by the first amendment and how those arguments could target Chinese models specifically

Downloading and running software is not speech. (Just trying to steel-man the opposing argument.)

There is ample precedent in Bernstein v. United States that it is, in fact, free speech, and none that ought to be revisited here.

AFAICT, there's a differentiation that should be made between the model and the mobile app. TFA, and I'm assuming the bill, too, AFAICT, don't differentiate. The model seems unequivocally speech. Whether a mobile app can be banned seems like a different question; from other reporting it seems like the mobile app is laden with lovely things like keyloggers, and there, I can see "national security" might withstand scrutiny.

If the Senator were actually concerned about American's data, he'd pass some privacy laws. But the GOP is all laissez-faire capitalists these days, and they would not want the government telling American companies that that can't sell American data for money.

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The bill is political theater and this article is playing into it. A downloaded model that can be run on US servers is covered by the first amendment as free speech. This is not the same circumstance as the law that required TikTok divest of its platform, which was over spying concerns[0]. You can’t spy on Americans when data is kept on US servers. 0. Per the TikTok Supreme Court ruling: https://www.supremecourt.gov/…

I dont see why it matters that it's covered by the first amendment

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It is useful context for people who aren't American to know how ridiculous Josh Hawley is, and has always been. The current authoritarian chaos could lend some weight to the possibility that this becomes law, but it is still unlikely.

> It is useful context for people who aren't American to know how ridiculous Josh Hawley is, and has always been

You could write this sentence about the current President. And yet, he was elected. So much of the EOs and bills passed recently are utterly absurd — and while that perhaps stops some of them, it has far from stopped all of them.

Stop giving the GOP a free pass because it is "ridiculous". The Overton window of "ridiculous bills" is moving at a breakneck pace as it is. These people ought to be leaders. Hold them to account. Unelect them, ideally, though clearly my fellow Americans do not agree with me on that point.

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